Peronally, waiting for the Asian boom is like relying on winning the lottery as an income/ retirement plan. if you don't have a more solid plan for making money in the near future, you need to make one.

the thing is clarkatroid, while i've been pessimistic for the last month, like you, i think you're off on several points.

1: the fear that regs will outweigh fish 100/1. i don't see it. first of all, there's a large portion of msnl that will only play when fish are around, like me. so those people will drop down to find fish. likewise other people will drop down from those games because they can't beat them etc. some people will stop being pros and go get real work, etc. i don't think the ratio will change from what it is now. some people don't really game-select, they just sit at whatever table, and are content to grind out rakeback against 5 other regs.

2: that people are moving up. wat? people moved up way faster pre-UIGEA. i'm really not worried about ssnl people taking over msnl - aside from a few prodigies, they will invariably be worse than the regs there now.

the future of poker is not bright, but it is not doomed. the first reply to this post had it right on - 18 months ago people thought poker was finished. the games are about as good as they were then. there are always new things to learn. keep your chin up.

Shh don't encourage good players to play more.

i play 80k hands a month on both sites of the ocean. And ill take stars/ftp over ipoker / betfair / eurobet any day of the week(2/4) as its easier for me to dodge the regs and 2p2ers due to timezone differences. Theres also a lot more game selection. Although admittedly stars 5/10 scares me

Meh, while the work ethic of asian culture is pretty much legendary they have a pretty huge disadvantage in that there's probably almost no good poker literature available in chinese/korean/japanese.

Boohoo I can't bazillion table anymore just playing by some numbers and crap and taking money off people who only play for fun and actually have to think about my decisions boohoo

terrific contribution, thankyou for sharing your invaluable insight

You posted about being worried about the games, then this paragraph which is seemingly trying to motivate the whole of 2+2 to play more!


**** off willya!

I only browsed the responses, so don't kill me if I'm stealing someone's point

I think the correct way to look at the change is that there is legitimate competition in poker now. It will no longer be possible to fall out of bed, play 3h and do whatever you want with the rest of your day and still net sizable 5 figure sums. But you know, right now I can't think of any other jobs where you can.

I think the people that treat it like a job and continue to grow as a player and strive to stay in the top 20% of their stakes will always be able to make money, its just no longer a paradise.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that playing poker is going to become a lot like an ordinary job. So when it no longer has the benefits of making easy $$$, you have to think about if you might be happier doing something else or if you like the flexible hours and the ability to work from home so much that you are willing to invest everything you have into poker to make it work.

i think this everytime i have a horrible run, then i make several hundred k in a few months at 1020/1025 and laugh at myself for being stupid.

i realise that this OP will achieve nothing positive for me personally and may motivate some of 2p2 to play more, but i figure a lazy bastard is a lazy bastard, and most poker players are lazy bastards.A motivational post on 2p2 will not change this inherant tendency to sloth.

i agree with this but at the same time i wish i found poker after college, i think the opprotunity costs for spending all day at your computer everyday when youre 20 years old or "growing up" cant even be measured in dollars

games are way easier now than they were 18 months ago and that's with the economy in the crapper and and retarded legislation still in effect

I think things have the potential to be much brighter

Also, it takes waaaaaaaaaaaay more time and effort for newbies to become winners at 2/4 and especially 5/10 now than it did in the party days i dunno why you think there's gonna be this influx of wiz kids most people still suck bad at poker

Pokersitescout can attest to this phenomenon. The numbers of concurrent cash game players has risen to nearly pre-legislation levels. 6 months after the legislation, we had 1/3 of the concurrent players than we do now (6-8K on stars/ftp then, 20K+ now). So even with the stupid UIGEA, it has been steadily getting better instead of dying off.

So true, game quality is better than the winter after neteller went down. .