Mid Stakes for a Living - Page 6 - Medium Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Nielsio · 05-25-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

100k

That would only be possible through a public bet. I don't have that kind of money to bet.

What's your Stars sn?

cashy · 05-25-2009, 04:41 PM

Kysus

TronSpecial · 05-25-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jongreenway

I definitely agree it is good for some people, but I'd say it isn't for the other 99%. This is why I want you to impress me and come back in 5-10 years and still feel the same way!

Also, people are so lol in estimating profits.
- consistant number of tables?
- consistant number of hours?
- vacation time?
- burn outs?
- tilt?

yeah but i bet that 100% rb is easy to estimate

05-25-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nielsio

I didn't say he was especially good; there are many HSNL players who are better than him. But he is the prime of MSNL. He's raking 4.00 ptbb at 2/4 for 900K hands (BEFORE rakeback). He's raking 3.48 ptbb at 3/6 for 250K hands (before rakeback).

This means not only is he one of the best players at midstakes, he's also one of the biggest grinders.

This means that 500K at midstakes is completely UNrealistic.

Your point about massgrinders being bad and good players being lazy illustrates this.

Damn, that's a debate ender if I've ever seen one.

Nielsio · 05-25-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

Kysus

Do you even have 100K to bet? Such a bet would be way too big if you can't escrow a good part of it, with such a long lasting bet.

cashy · 05-25-2009, 05:05 PM

I obv wouldnt start in summer

Bruut99 · 05-25-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

nanonoko is not especially good
he is just solid doesnt spew much and grinds a ton

the thing is
most good players are lazy and most massgrinders are terrible

This might be the nr.1 reason why he is GOOD ( Good = winning money right?)

NxtWrldChamp · 05-25-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

100k

in for a few grand

clarkatroid · 05-25-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp

in for a few grand

same

invisibleleadsoup · 05-25-2009, 05:32 PM

whats your ipoker nick cashy?

SheepSuit · 05-25-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by clarkatroid

same

me too

iMsoLucky0 · 05-25-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jongreenway

Please impress me and still feel this way in 5-10 years

It has been over 5 years since I quit school and I am still very thrilled with the decision. I'd be verrrrry surprised if I don't have the same sentiment in another 5 years. I'm definitely not saying everyone should quit school. Some people are built for poker... some aren't.

iMsoLucky0 · 05-25-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jigga_man

pretty cool thread....Ill put my 2 cents in

Optimal hand numbers per month are 100% player dependent. Personally I've done both grinding out 100k + hands per month and played 45k hands a month 4 tabling for 25 hours a week. I've found the later works better for me. I'm prone to tilt and need to play short sessions or I begin to lose my mind. This may sound crazy to some of u but 2 hours at a time the max I can play without having my play deterorate significantly.
Also I think it is important to have a well balanced life that includes lots of social time and excersise regularly. I've grinded out tons of hands and it doesnt work for me. Id encourage u guys to try playing short sessions with your A game and see where that takes u.
Over the past 22 months Ive run at over 5ptbb/100 playing 5/10 and 3/6 nl

Over how many hands? screenname or graph plz?

Syous · 05-25-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

because of 25hours/week of work?
come on

Poker is very exhausting I know but if you have good schedule/workout regularly/eat healthy you will feel better physically and grinding for 100hours/month shouldnt be a problem.

If I can do it everbody can.

I agree 100%. So many of us here are ****ing lazy brats it's ridiculous

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Originally Posted by nuggetz87

some of my friends have just always been terrible at all sports, and some bust out their phone calculator to figure out how much to tip.

haha this always boggled me. especially when they tip only 10%

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Originally Posted by billybeartku

if you like having a 6k ds at 3/6 in 1000 hands that type of sesh, sure why not.

you don't get to chime in ****face. you complain about every single bad beat like we care.

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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo

DO NOT DROP OUT

completely disagree. Depends on your poker level right now and what your plan is in life and how it's currently running.

If you're gonna smoke weed and play poker all day, then stay in school.

If you want to smoke weed and play poker all day for the rest of your life...well...at least talk it over w/a few friends :P

If you want the chance to do something amazing and get involved in other activities that you never had the time for, then do it. Create a longterm plan with what you want from this game and how you want to run your future. If it's reasonable, go for it. Just realize you can't be lazy about this game or else you'll turn into the guys who are saying "DON'T DROP OUT"

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

only thing i have to say is dropping out of school was the best decision i ever made in my life

word. it started out stupid for me but has become the best decision of my life as well.

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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp

u were doing it wrong then imo

just depends on what you do with your life man

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Originally Posted by dangerfish

Cashy, I think you and a lot of posters in this thread are underestimating how hard it is to achieve what you claim. First off, there is a huge survivorship bias going on here as most people that are working hard and still struggling are far less likely to make a post about it. Not to mention if you look at empirical evidence you would see that not many are doing what you say is "easy" to do. That is not to say it is not easy for you to do but don't assume other players posses the same aptitudes you do. For me personally, I have done just about everything imaginable in an effort to improve my game and while my results are respectable it has been a very humbling experience. And yes, I do envy the talent some players seem to naturally posses.

this is a really great assessment. I've seen how hard the guy works and wish I had his drive back when I started out.

I disagree about people working "hard". C'mon, you saw how many hands I used to put in :P

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Originally Posted by Nielsio

DrGiggy, 50K+ hands a month, 280K earnings in over a year time (3.1 ptbb, excluding rakeback)).

zero2lose, 105K+ hands a month, 295K earning in over a year time (2.0 ptbb, ex rakeback).

Who are these 500K MSNLers you're talking about? Leatherass cleares 500K but he plays 10/20 as well.

I think 500k is also a stretch but 300k in your early 20s is friggin amazing. Do something smart with it and you've got a great headstart on life.

homeboy604 · 05-25-2009, 09:21 PM

yah, unless you play 10/20+ 500k would be V hard to accomplish.