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painful but his range is limited only 1010 and king jack nearly every time. what else can a good tag player have here? theres not even a flush draw out there

Lol, wrote that before I read that. Basically saying the same thing.

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02-28-2008 , 12:38 PM

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Yeti

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BUT AQ IS NEAR THE TOP OF OUR RANGE!!!!!!!!11

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02-28-2008 , 12:42 PM

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aejones

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Originally Posted by MDMA

Quite honestly you can just fold here vs this guy.

best post in the thread, and 100% true, i don't think it's close.

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02-28-2008 , 12:47 PM

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Fonkey123

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Originally Posted by Yeti

BUT AQ IS NEAR THE TOP OF OUR RANGE!!!!!!!!11

It doesn't matter if it's below the bottom of his range.

Last edited by Fonkey123; 02-28-2008 at 12:47 PM. Reason: i know he was being sarcastic

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02-28-2008 , 12:52 PM

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Boquense

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Reef- I basically get this in every time with a sick feeling. On a board like this when you get c/r by a good regular you get 'coolered' nearly 100%.

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02-28-2008 , 12:52 PM

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mikeysong

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Originally Posted by shortstackingyo

stack off

if only our stack was 20bbs it would be so easy

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02-28-2008 , 01:27 PM

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shortstackingyo

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For less than 100bbs, OP should just stack off here.

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02-28-2008 , 02:13 PM

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BalugaWhale

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Originally Posted by MDMA

Quite honestly you can just fold here vs this guy.

obv correct.

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02-28-2008 , 02:30 PM

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Chaostracize

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For Reefy to be C-betting this flop, his hand range is narrowed significatnly, and if a solid player like LA is CRing him in a multiway pot his range is therefore also narrowed significantly. I think you need to fold this flop, there is nothing that LA can be semibluffing and QT is leading.

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02-28-2008 , 02:46 PM

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fslexcduck

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Originally Posted by MDMA

Quite honestly you can just fold here vs this guy.

+1 for fold

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02-28-2008 , 02:50 PM

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Irishman07

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What do you guys think of LA's play then? From the replies it seems it's not that great as it gives away his hand strength pretty obviously. If you're OP how would you play the hand if LA donks out? Obviously folding the flop is far too weak... I think calling flop would be best but if he fires 2nd barrel on turn I don't know if I would call or fold as that line is also very very strong.

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02-28-2008 , 02:56 PM

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oyvindgee

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Originally Posted by shortstackingyo

For less than 100bbs, OP should just stack off here.

Stacking off 5 times in this spot with 20bb is not the same as doing it once with a 100.

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02-28-2008 , 03:01 PM

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Shouldn't KJo combos be discounted? It's a pretty non-standard call OOP I think. That said, there's precisely 1 combo of ATs, and 4 of KJs, 3 of TT, so I guess fold.

But then if people are folding AQ here, I should be CRing all kinds of stuff, JT, etc.

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02-28-2008 , 03:07 PM

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Meh not rly reef has KJ/TTT/AAA/QQQ enough here. Besides just because ppl should fold AQ/AT etc doesnt mean they will. Agree with fold here if LA is cr air in a 4 way pot on this board than congrats you owned me.

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02-28-2008 , 03:22 PM

#41

shortstackingyo

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Maybe he check raised knowing it's a scary flop for a nit and you'll fold anything but a set or the nut straight.

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02-28-2008 , 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aejones

best post in the thread, and 100% true, i don't think it's close.

I think since it's reefy and having 99 here would constitute a cooler, can't imagine folding now. There's valuable meta to be had.

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02-28-2008 , 03:55 PM

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Meh not rly reef has KJ/TTT/AAA/QQQ enough here.

But there's twice as many combos of AK/AQ/AJ/AT/QT, and that's assuming hero never c-bets air or ace rag.

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Besides just because ppl should fold AQ/AT etc doesnt mean they will.

Truth. I'm not even sure I'd want to try to get people off AK here... I think their rationale is often: "well, I got 10 outs vs AT, so I'm going with it", that or, "TOPTOP!"

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02-28-2008 , 03:58 PM

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ddubois,

Reefy should be checking AJ/AK here a lot, A rag for sure and betting air here not that often. This is a very good board for calling on because bluffs rarely have any equity at all, it's a bad board for value betting on because most hands people have simply can't call bets.

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02-28-2008 , 04:06 PM

#45

ipokeder

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yeah because everyone who plays 3/6 is obviously folding AQ so it's a great checkraise

especially since reef is a well-known superfolder who always gives people credit and is a solid handreader

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02-28-2008 , 07:06 PM

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leatherass

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I just love the image I have.

It's a wonder how I make any money. If you asked any good player apparently I have the most transparent game of all time...lol. Especially aejones. It's almost like he knows what I have before the cards even get dealt to me...lol.

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02-28-2008 , 07:12 PM

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aejones

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Originally Posted by leatherass

I just love the image I have.

at least you said it, not me

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02-28-2008 , 07:41 PM

#48

Christophers

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Originally Posted by leatherass

I just love the image I have.

So you had KJ right?

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02-28-2008 , 07:42 PM

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aejones

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Originally Posted by Christophers

So you had KJ right?

Stop pretending like he's not balancing, he doesn't ALWAYS have KJ here- this is TTT at least 20% of the time.

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02-28-2008 , 07:55 PM

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BalugaWhale

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aejones i think its more like TT 15% and QQ/AA a solid 5%
and KJ 80%

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