People keep saying they don't do much to your winrate, not directly but they do. For instance, they can completely screw you if you are deep with some donk, and they shove over preflop action that would have otherwise been called.

excellent thread, btw

That's a good idea. We'll see if we can't cook something up. I personally am not the one going to make said video since I enjoy trying to crack them with 46s so much and pad their wallets.

Episode 2 of pr1nnyraiding deals with shortstackers in HU games.

ahahhahahahaa i love this post

i don't play on stars but thanks anyway, moonshine - some solid penance for shortstacking

now just stop being a good player on FTP plz

ty, i felt like i wasnt 3betting them enough and now this proves it

PT is really dumb with positional stats i cant quite figure out how it works but the numbers dont really add up some how

Take my word for it. It's actually 100%

Though they're probably not stupid, i wonder how quick they'll adjust

even if they adjust, constant 3betting will hurt their winrate, as you said. I realized before they were opening 100% from sb, but I didn't have balls to reraise with 64s. But I did it with all high card low kickers and stuff.

Great post.

Die shortstackers! And die slowly in a pain!

BOOM

excellent post op. I don't even play on stars, but i love that you made this. Down with shortstackers!

moonshine, look at position stats tab and first in raise %.

I would just reraise their button open to 8bb with 100% of my range and fold anything with less than like 37% equity if they 4bet shove, seems better than open shipping 30bbs everytime they open no?

No, because I enjoy sucking out on them.

Seriously, good idea. Wonder how they would adjust.

When you get 3bet by them you need 42% eq when 4betting them all in (you obv have no fe)

pushing range: a-9+ 45% (eq vs their 3bet range)
a-6s+ 45%
j-k+ 44%
4-4+ 46%

In my opinion a decent 4bet range to get it in with when you have opended first in lp...

WTF????

OP, thx for destroying weeks of work,. since i play a short and bigstack adn now both perspectives, the thing i can say is that OP is soooo right ;(

shortstacking can prolly almost be made unprofitable if ppl would adjust better, cuz the blinds and rake will eat em up