Villain is an aggro winning reg. plays 30/26/13 in 6max. cbets 71%, c/r turn is 7%.

I flat pre because of fish in blinds, and his range is super wide from CO and I can def make some moves,but 3bet is prob better.




[converted_hand][hand_history]On Game, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13612372

Hero (BTN): $1,736 (173.6 bb)
SB: $1,103 (110.3 bb)
BB: $3,965.75 (396.6 bb)
MP: $1,151 (115.1 bb)
CO: $985 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 J
MP folds, CO raises to $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds

Flop: ($75) 9 8 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $55, CO calls $55

Turn: ($185) J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $140, CO raises to $324, Hero ?

Tough spot, but I think you have to call. I think that this hand prefers to 3bet, but most of your range would rather call/fold. I think most competent villains in the CO will see this as a turn you are pretty likely to bet when checked to, increasing the frequency of single pair and strong semi bluff hands in his range. There are plenty of second best two pair hands a wider opener can have here too.

have u been raising alot of flops? has he been chk/raise or chk/calling a lot as the pfr?

I don't see him ever doing this with worse for value (can't see him checking flop with 2pair, and even less likely that he c/r this turn if he did). It also seems very unlikely to be a bluff, given how this card (and the board more generally) connects so well with your CO/BTN flatting range, and given the types of hands he is most likely to c/c the flop with (like why c/c the flop with some weakish pair+draw then turn it into a bluff on this turn?).

You're probably up against some funky QT or JJ here close to always, but no one is going to tell you to fold.

Wow wtf

Call I guess.

q10 makes perfect sense, his sizing scares me too and even the small % he's bluffing with a 87/97 type hand, vast majority of river's aren't going to be fun. Gross but folding the turn.

call and pray he is drawing

I misread the HH This is way more likely to be nutted than cbetting and then check/raising, which is what I thought happened. Sorry.

If villain has some weak SD value (likely with a draw) he'd probably c/c again. It seems like it could be a good spot to semi bluff because of how strong it looks, but I don't know if anyone's really trying that with a non standard line. Usually this makes people very suspicious. Now I'm baffled, but would probably still call down just in case villain took this line to maximise your bluffs and pull a rebluff.

I would expect him to always cb QT

I don't think it's unlikely villain turns 67 type hands into bluffs. He's going to get tripled a ton and can't really call the river.

This is a flop texture where a cb is going to get raised a lot, balancing your c/fing range by c/cing some draws is fairly standard. Admittedly once you bink c/ring is fairly meh, as is evident here as we're thinking about folding such a strong hand.

^True, but we're just some 2p2 nits. Villain is a LAG and is never expecting anyone to fold anything decent here with his image. Against the average reg, I think it's pretty reasonable for him to expect hero to continue with much of his turn betting range (especially to that small sizing).

I dont get it, so we should fold everything but QT here? I think our range is not that strong for betting 2 streets either. We have some air since villain is showing weakness, some draws, some pair +draw combos, overpairs to let fish get in the pot and then ofcourse some sets and straights but our range probebly isnt that strong all in all. So why wouldnt villain try to turn 67 78 77 type of hands into a bluff, I'm not thrilled about stacking off but I'm not folding this.

I think it's possible that villain could have semi bluffs just because he may put hero on an extremely wide range to bet when checked to on this board. He may think there are lots of hands in hero's range that just can't call a bet.

I don't know how many people are folding top two here, no matter what they say on 2+2. And I'm not sure villain is check/raising only the nuts, because there are plenty of draws that didn't hit the turn. I think it's a sick spot, so I could be wrong, but I would probably call down.

I'm with ATOHEC here. I think it definitely makes sense for him to C/C flop with QT, and also for him to C/R turn.

I mean yeah sure villain could be doing some random **** with 67/78 or something like that, but he's got 16 QT combos, and since we don't know his bluffing range here, so many rivers are going to be pretty gross.

Having that said, the more I think about the hand the more it seems like a decent spot for him to bluff since we are going to have a very wide range and his C/R seems super strong. But he did C/C the flop, so he needs to be either C/R 67/78 type hand, maybe A8, or a QKdd type hand, but even those seem a little strange since he can expect you to be 3betting your stronger hands here rather than call.

If his only semibluffs are pair+draw hands, and he's putting us on an extremely wide range for betting when checked to, then it seems the natural response will be to call again.

I agree hero is expected to stab the flop close to always, but I think it's pretty common to slow down a bit on turn. He probably won't expect hero to bet the turn with many made hands that aren't top pair or better.