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View Poll Results: How many months living expenses do you set aside from bankroll/investments?
3 months 8 3.57%
6 months 31 13.84%
12 months 23 10.27%
More than 12 months 79 35.27%
What's an emergency fund? 43 19.20%
BASTARD 40 17.86%
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #31
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People actually have jobs and grind MSNL?
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:25 PM   #32
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I had a years worth of expenses saved up before BF...now I know that was too little.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:35 PM   #33
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I was always curious: if you have a year set aside and live for a month do you now have 11 months? Is this an emergency fund or like prepaid living expense? How far into that do you dip before cashing out? do you just wait for a big month and then reset? seems like you have to live out of your roll at least indirectly unless you're backed for everything.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:01 PM   #34
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All you need is a bridge and some china powder.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:26 AM   #35
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I was always curious: if you have a year set aside and live for a month do you now have 11 months? Is this an emergency fund or like prepaid living expense? How far into that do you dip before cashing out? do you just wait for a big month and then reset? seems like you have to live out of your roll at least indirectly unless you're backed for everything.
you move from cheaper place to cheaper place so you always have 12 months living expenses, eventually finishing off your downswing in India.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:46 AM   #36
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I never understand when people say stuff like this, if you don't have other things in your life you find more enjoyable than work/poker, then you need to reassess.
So I like poker and that surprises you? I def have other interests in life, but I'm just saying I dont think there will be a day when I'm 100% done with poker.
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Old 07-09-2012, 06:51 AM   #37
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So I like poker and that surprises you? I def have other interests in life, but I'm just saying I dont think there will be a day when I'm 100% done with poker.
Right, my point was that "liking" something is all relative, and I doubt many people are going to find poker high on their list after grinding for multiple years, so our goal should be to retire as early as possible while maintaining a relatively good life in the meantime.

When I say "retire" or "be done with poker" I really mean "no demand to earn income from that outlet anymore," as I too doubt poker will completely vanish from a former professional's life.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:13 AM   #38
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if i'm still grinding poker in my 40's I would not be happy about it
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:39 PM   #39
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Re: How many months expenses do you set aside?

if im still grinding like 3 years from now i will not ba happy about it, and that may even be long.

Also, this thread is making me feel both nitty and poor at the same time. thanks guise
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:46 PM   #40
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abouyt 10 years? I'm a nit when it comes to this stuff though.

I still look forward to grinding poker in the next 5 years, or even longer because I still really enjoy playing. I'm in my early 20's though, so that probably makes a difference.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:51 PM   #41
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i still enjoy poker, but worry about the opportunity cost of doing this too long, and missing out on other opportunities. Specifically entering the workforce too late, and the diminishing value of my degree the farther out i get from it. 3 years was just a random number i picked, but i think it seems about right. tbf i havent exactly been crushing games lately which is probably affecting my outlook.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:55 PM   #42
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~12 months in cash, way more in different kinds of investments but no plan touching those. I live out of my BR though, in larger downswings I let it be and grab money out of my safety net and rebuild it when I am out of the downswing.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:05 PM   #43
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Right, my point was that "liking" something is all relative, and I doubt many people are going to find poker high on their list after grinding for multiple years, so our goal should be to retire as early as possible while maintaining a relatively good life in the meantime.

When I say "retire" or "be done with poker" I really mean "no demand to earn income from that outlet anymore," as I too doubt poker will completely vanish from a former professional's life.
I love poker, there's almost nothing I enjoy doing more. I can't imagine playing poker if I didn't enjoy it; I think it would be such a soulless/awful job if I lost my passion for it that I'd just get a normal job.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #44
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Right, my point was that "liking" something is all relative, and I doubt many people are going to find poker high on their list after grinding for multiple years, so our goal should be to retire as early as possible while maintaining a relatively good life in the meantime.

When I say "retire" or "be done with poker" I really mean "no demand to earn income from that outlet anymore," as I too doubt poker will completely vanish from a former professional's life.
I love poker, there's almost nothing I enjoy doing more. I can't imagine playing poker if I didn't enjoy it; I think it would be such a soulless/awful job if I lost my passion for it. If I could make a living playing online poker in my 40s I would be thrilled.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:25 PM   #45
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6 months, 0 with a halftime job or the like that roughly covers rent of a crappier place/insurance and so forth+ low end food i.e. somewhat over minimum living conditions.

Kind of depends on how quickly you think you can get a job, how fixed your spending is, how quickly you can detect that you should move down (and do it) and how willing you are to adjust your spending.

I'd guess 2 years+ with a family that depends on your income.
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