the problem with this hand is, that SB is likely never bluffing because he would have to call it off vs the short stack.
that leaves him with a range of good draws and strong made hands like qjss, k9ss type hands, then AT, A8s etc.
you are ahead of that range, tt is a very small part of it.
vs the shortstack, you are happy to stack off, i assume?
maybe you only want to call the 150bet in oder to keep Fish around in the pot. nothing you can do in this hand, apart from handing sb ur money, imo!
edit: this thread probably belongs in the live low-stakes NL forum
After raise like that, from SB, who called out of position, I would think he has KQs, or set made. Since with AA he would probably raise both of you, and you hold both 88, you already behind. With that reraise, I would consider folding, especially from a decent player.
He might XR the flop with AT or A8 as well buth prolly not calling a 3bet, i would preferef calling flop and evaluate the turn, no value in 3bet the flop
You have no reason to suspect SB is a crazy player. And clearly his check-reraise-4-bet on the flop demonstrates he wants to get all the money in.
You can't be criticized for going broke on a flopped set, but I think you could also not be criticized for recognizing you are behind and saving your last $410.
Fwiw i think your 3-bet was basically fine since you're trying to do the same thing as the SB, which is to build the pot and price out draws.
The key to this hand is to look at the flop action. What kind of value hands is the SB (seems decent and not crazy) going to check raise with and then four-bet jam on the flop? Would a decent player do this with AK? AT? I don't see it. Would he do it with something like J9s or 97s. I suppose that's possible, but with your three bet you've already demonstrated considerable strength so I would think most of time instead of raising he would call and take a turn so as not to get blown off of his hand when he has good equity.
As previously stated this line is pretty much never a bluff because when the action is done you have a short stack all in and this hand is guaranteed to go to showdown.
When you process all of it you come up with only two legitimate value hands that plays like this: AA and TT.
That being said, this is live and it's very hard to process all of this information on the fly and come up with the answer, so you should absolutely not feel bad about stacking off with a set.
I don't think you can consider AA here. The SB had an opportunity to re-raise your PFR after the CO called your $20. There's no way he's passing that by in the worst position, with the BB still to act (and any other limper that you didn't mention) and not getting some equity into the pot. If you were heads up, he might do it to disguise his hand, but he's not doing it 3-ways in first position. You would have to put him on 1010 here and that's hard to do but I guess it's possible when you consider his line. I don't think most people can make that fold, though. You didn't and you lost. I don't think it was a bad call, but at the same time it takes awfully big cojones to make the fold. It's pretty villain dependent. I've seen some crazy stuff in live 2-5 so unless I knew the villain was very strong I would probably lean towards a call as well. I think A/Xss is the most likely holding. A/Kss, A/Qss or A/Jss he may think he's got 3 extra outs.
Last edited by HawkesDave; 08-16-2016 at 08:31 PM.
