well thats the nature of the game

def. not true

i bet any AI specialist would disagree with you.

think about how you would brute force a GTO strat for rock paper scissors; you would only need the rules of the game, assign random strategies to player 1 and 2 and just let them keep adjusting to each other until they stop adjusting at the equilibrium.

Wrong.

Trial and error is pretty easy if you have hundreds of millions of hhs at your disposal.

I remember bots at 2/4 on Party back in 2007/8, they were OK and sometimes stuck around and played HU when the tables broke. HU they were easy to bet. But there was easier money to be made back then, so I didn't investigate furthur, I wish I had done.


In other news:

I have asked if I will be receiving a written reply from their poker provider. I presume that it would be from Ongame themselves.

I opened a Betsafe account a month ago and deposited. When i went to transfer my funds from the main wallet to my poker account i was only allowed to transfer X amount and asked to provide documents to transfer the rest. I had to scan a bank statement and an image of my passport and email themto support. Betsafe rejected the scan of my passport image because they couldnt make out the numbers at the bottom of the passport to confirm its authenticity. They made me send another image showing the Passport numbers and only then did they allow me to transfer a decent amount to my poker account so i could play.
Surely if every skin followed these measures to verify every single account then the owners of the bots would have a hell of a time setting up 100s of accounts. Do all Ongame skins follow the same procedure as Betsafe?

Tbh it's something that has surprised me a bit.

I have only started playing at Ongame in the last few months and have tried two skins while shopping around for better deals. On both accounts I have deposited and withdrawn 4figures without any security at all.

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To write a program to do anything you need to have a seriously good understanding of the process you are automating.
If these are bots, then whoever wrote them (or at least one of the team) has a knowledge of strategy good enough to beat the same games.

Why do you say that? Could be anyone, well known or otherwise.

No, BestPoker never asked me for anything.

i know im prob not gonna get any answer but i already know where to buy the bot but if someone has bought it(or has a good version) and wants it sent to somewhere at ongame that matters i have a friend who knows big guys around ongame that know bigger guys so just pm me and ill forward you an email to discuss it with him

Not true.

That's pretty obvious. You can't automated a process that you don't understand.

To those that say otherwise: Could you write an accounting program without knowing accounting?

Care to elaborate?

You're suggesting that the bots are based on true AI and have taught themselves NLHE? That's technically feasible I guess.

However using brute force decision trees and strategy approximations is going to be an infinitely easier task than writing AI, even if 100bb MSNL is a fairly large task to automate correctly.

Maybe I'm wrong but I rate myself as a very experienced coder (though I've never written poker programs) and I just can't see AI being faster/easier than just pre-defined strategies.

I guess it's possible that you could write evaluation routines to decide best strategies (like stoxev or pokerazor) but still the programmer needs to be at least a very very solid player to begin with.

of course. you just need the accounting rulebook. you guys are just flat-out wrong about needing a world class player to make a world class bot. which top limit pro was involved in writing polaris?