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A8o FD+Gutshot+Ace high facing LAG shove on turn HU 6max A8o FD+Gutshot+Ace high facing LAG shove on turn HU 6max

03-25-2017 , 02:07 AM
My image is very tight in a 5/5 live game that has become short, people have begun to attack me I have about 230 I have Ac8s in the SB, a LAG Chinese reg who had 2 pair when he CR 4 people limps UTG with 600, loose but tight CO limps, I raise A8o in the SB to 20, BB folds, LAG calls, CO reg calls.
Pot: 65 Flop: Jc3c5c, I elect to check, LAG bets 50 with 2 greens pretty quick, reg CO folds, I c/c
Turn: Jc3c5c2s (165) I check again, LAG guy shoves AI puts out 3 stacks. I'm not sure if he has a lot of combos of Kcx, Qcx, club combos that shove the turn. I had recently tank called him down with top pair on the turn after he 2 barrelled, he min check raised me with air on 998cc board, I called and he barrelled small on the turn and I folded. he's just been attacking me in almost every pot we are in but does he have a flush here when he shoves? I kind of think he doesn't have J5, J3
my range kind of looks like a draw or Jx hand, 33, 55, flushes but maybe he could shove a wide range on the turn? I could play a set or flush this way but I don't have that many sets
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03-25-2017 , 02:42 PM
iso 4x OOP vs. two limps with an unsuited disconnected ace and a shortstack?

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All options can be considered otf but I think xc is maybe the most reasonable. b/f is obv gross, b/c is slightly better but still seems suboptimal. I think I prefer xj otf > b/c but I don't love xj either.

as played it seems close ott but I think it's a fold, even vs. a LAG it's not easy for him to show up with a ton of worse hands here, KQcx is really the only one that would seem to be in his range at a high frequency, otherwise he'd have to be limping stuff like QTo or 76o pre. He's more likely to limp suited stuff pre so I think flushes make up too much of his range relative to one club hands for this to a be call. Don't think you're in good shape against range of random flushes, KJ-AJ, 33,55, KQcx
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03-25-2017 , 04:20 PM
yeah the basic calc says it's definitely a standard fold against any kind of 2pair+ value range but it's interesting he was limp calling A2o oop against my button open in the 899cc hand. I'd guess he is opening KQ, KJ, KT. He recently lost his stack and rebought for 600. Anyway you can avoid variance by not playing shorthanded NL500
If his range is
55-22,A6s-A2s,QJs,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,53s+,43s,A8o-A2o,K9o-K2o,Q9o+,J2o+,T9o,98o,87o,76o,65o,53o+ I still have 54% but only against his whole range.
I'm wondering if based on the dynamic and that I tank folded and tank called he is pushing a weak range here on the turn?
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03-25-2017 , 04:56 PM
Why are you giving him such a wide range now? In OP you said you don't think he has J3, J5. How is J2+ realistic? How often is he limping 5-T offsuit hands, stabbing flop MW on mono texture with them not closing the action, and jamming a dry turn when called? I mean I get that he's LAG but these still seem like pretty ambitious assumptions.
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03-25-2017 , 05:17 PM
I've never seen him take this line before. He doesn't seem tilted but maybe he is from losing his first buyin. I'm not sure the player was dressed in hood garments. Some of the players at the game might limp J2o like maybe even the shortstack. I was just making his range stronger and adding top pair hands to be conservative since it's a lot of money.
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03-25-2017 , 06:16 PM
this player is a dangerous LAG he's capable of using deception like he did with a reverse tell in the 2 pair hand.
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04-02-2017 , 05:11 PM
I think I should have folded preflop or just checked the SB and played a small pot oop with less variance.
I don't really like x/j either, some people have advised this, but I don't know exactly how wide villain would c bet 3 ways with this dynamic especially out of position. it seems that villain's range is wide and unpredictable here and it seems like x/j is just gambling blind. I'm not sure what villain would fold if he would even fold Jx to a c/j. If I had a read that he was really a fish and capable of cbetting air and had a lot of junk hands and capable of folding I'm not sure.....
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