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5/5 -A8s... strong draws that don't improve OTT 5/5 -A8s... strong draws that don't improve OTT

04-02-2017 , 02:43 PM
Villain, strong thinking LAG. Honestly, I respect this guy's game more than many other players. Leaks I've picked up on... incongruity in pre and post play by getting fit/fold post flop too often. I guess he's taking the "small ball" approach, but that's not to say he won't get sticky if he thinks there might be a bluffing opportunity and/or he'll improve, but have seen him c-bet and float flops just to x-x to showdown & muck, sometimes just x/x/x all the way through after opening pre. Turn and river aggression have coincided with medium to strong hands so far. Was an interesting TT hand that I don't fully recall, but V either 2bet a 785 flop or raised a 9 river in a multi-way pot.

V's View of Hero: TAG that could loosen up. Within the 1st half hour of our game, he called my BTN steal attempt w/ A2o and checked a Q22 flop to me, then flatted a c-bet, x/x turn and x/x a Q OTR. He also 3x 3bet another BTN steal attempt that I flatted and folded OTF when he lead for 55%PSB on a 962 flop. Since then, I've moved directly opposite of him on the table, and he's been quiet for about 90 minutes.

Rest of table: A few weak-tight short-stackers, 2 semi-loose passive guys, some other ABC types not really making moves, lots of chopped pots. Standard openings are $25-40 pending limpers

$800 Effective

UTG recently sat down and has been limping 60-70%, folds to Hero who raises A8 in MP $35, V BTN calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop $139

432

x,x, H $130, V calls, f,f.

Turn: $399

9

Hero..? Figured V's range is something like 66-99, with a descending amount of TT-QQ combos if any. Wasn't sure how he'd play a draw here, but I figure he might call flop w/ some combos, maybe 57, and perhaps slowplay A5/65. Not sure if he'd float PSB w/ Ax

Def would appreciate flop advice as well. I was trying to pump the pot as much as I could while equity's the greatest.

Not sure how interesting the river is, but can post later as I really want turn advice.
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04-02-2017 , 03:26 PM
80-85ish on flop, 170-180ish on most turns including this one, shove a bunch of rivers.
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04-02-2017 , 05:12 PM
$85 flop, keep barreling turn ~66%
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04-03-2017 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
Villain, strong thinking LAG. Honestly, I respect this guy's game more than many other players. Leaks I've picked up on... incongruity in pre and post play by getting fit/fold post flop too often. I guess he's taking the "small ball" approach, but that's not to say he won't get sticky if he thinks there might be a bluffing opportunity and/or he'll improve, but have seen him c-bet and float flops just to x-x to showdown & muck, sometimes just x/x/x all the way through after opening pre. Turn and river aggression have coincided with medium to strong hands so far. Was an interesting TT hand that I don't fully recall, but V either 2bet a 785 flop or raised a 9 river in a multi-way pot.

V's View of Hero: TAG that could loosen up. Within the 1st half hour of our game, he called my BTN steal attempt w/ A2o and checked a Q22 flop to me, then flatted a c-bet, x/x turn and x/x a Q OTR. He also 3x 3bet another BTN steal attempt that I flatted and folded OTF when he lead for 55%PSB on a 962 flop. Since then, I've moved directly opposite of him on the table, and he's been quiet for about 90 minutes.

Rest of table: A few weak-tight short-stackers, 2 semi-loose passive guys, some other ABC types not really making moves, lots of chopped pots. Standard openings are $25-40 pending limpers

$800 Effective

UTG recently sat down and has been limping 60-70%, folds to Hero who raises A8 in MP $35, V BTN calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop $139

432

x,x, H $130, V calls, f,f.

Turn: $399

9

Hero..? Figured V's range is something like 66-99, with a descending amount of TT-QQ combos if any. Wasn't sure how he'd play a draw here, but I figure he might call flop w/ some combos, maybe 57, and perhaps slowplay A5/65. Not sure if he'd float PSB w/ Ax

Def would appreciate flop advice as well. I was trying to pump the pot as much as I could while equity's the greatest.

Not sure how interesting the river is, but can post later as I really want turn advice.
Wait you bet $135 on a $140 flop? Also if you bet flop def bet turn here.
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04-04-2017 , 12:28 AM
Ok... glad I found this thread because I def thought I posted in LLSNL as that's usually the only place I visit. Figured I forgot to hit submit....

Thank you for the feed back everyone. I suppose I got out of line with flop sizing. I guess I hoped blind + limper were bad enough to have an inelastic calling range. Anyways, I continued with $225 OTT, V called and said "your set is good" while putting the chips in.

River $848

5

Hero actually has closer to $500-500 behind if memory serves. Apologies for the confusion...

..just shove, right? How about rivers that miss?
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04-04-2017 , 11:11 AM
I probably just shove. With him saying that though I'm a little worried that he has 65. Has he said similar things before? And if so, what happened in those hands?

Check/fold missed rivers with the sizing used and his comment on the turn IMO. If the comment isn't worrisome, maybe you can shove on K's or Q's, especially if diamonds.
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04-13-2017 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I probably just shove. With him saying that though I'm a little worried that he has 65. Has he said similar things before? And if so, what happened in those hands?
I don't think he has 65 here ever. There's a ton of Ax hands in hero's range and along with flushdraw, it's a terrible spot for him to slowplay. If he had 65 you would have likely heard about it in on the flop and definatly by the turn. The same logic can be applied to sets that aren't 55

As played you have to ship any river. His most likely hands are mid pocket pairs which you need to fold out if you miss. You can credibly rep AA, KK or QQ so even though there's a flush draw on the board he can't be loving his hand
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04-17-2017 , 03:34 PM
Small chance he has 65 but it's unlikely. Action on the flop normally dictates he raises to avoid easy odds for the players behind him, not to mention OP. However, with the size of your bet on the flop alters that a little bit. He either has a set, combo draw or straight. I don't quite seeing him just calling with 2pr or overpair but its possible.

As played, let it rip on the river. That's one of the cards you wanted to see.
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