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07-22-2015 , 10:27 AM

the real mg0698

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Villian was on the passive side fishy player getting 4:1 Is this a call?

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $788.76 (VP
CO: $398.00 (VPIP:
Hero (BTN): $401.90
SB: $194.00
BB: $275.00 (VPIP:
UTG: $406.00 (VPIP:

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has 9

fold, MP calls $4.00, fold, Hero raises to $14.00, SB calls $12.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($36.00, 2 players) 9

SB checks, Hero bets $28.00, SB calls $28.00

Turn: ($92.00, 2 players) 3

SB checks, Hero bets $72.00, SB calls $72.00

River: ($236.00, 2 players) 5

SB bets $80.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $80.00

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07-22-2015 , 11:11 AM

Mayox

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lol come on bro

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07-22-2015 , 04:26 PM

just_grindin

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Size bets better for turn gii.

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07-22-2015 , 04:31 PM

TheBusDriver

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Originally Posted by just_grindin

Size bets better for turn gii.

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07-22-2015 , 08:36 PM

the real mg0698

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Originally Posted by Mayox

lol come on bro

Lol I don't know... I mean I snap called knowing what I'm going to see. It seems pretty obvious what he has.

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07-22-2015 , 08:38 PM

the real mg0698

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Originally Posted by just_grindin

Size bets better for turn gii.

Besides over betting flop or turn don't see how to size it better. Any suggestions? If i pot flop turn is 108 pot with 144 left.

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07-22-2015 , 08:39 PM

ebet33

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Seems fine nh
Trying to size bigger to Gii it in ott probably folds almost everything You want value from
Ul if you lost

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07-23-2015 , 07:28 AM

just_grindin

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Originally Posted by the real mg0698

Besides over betting flop or turn don't see how to size it better. Any suggestions? If i pot flop turn is 108 pot with 144 left.

Sorry just saw 50bb and thought "we should be able to get this guy in on the turn" without looking at logistics of it.

I guess I'd just pot and overbet. He's a fish I don't think you lose out on much of anything here.

If you don't want to Gii on the turn then I would size smaller on flop and turn to value bet more thinly and pay less for my bluffs (if I have any vs the fish).

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07-23-2015 , 08:37 AM

Rei Ayanami

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Wp, including bet sizes.

No one would have said anything about setting up a turn jam if this precise event didn't happen -- typical reactionary and results-oriented "avoid the 'tough' decision you faced in the hand" advice.

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07-23-2015 , 08:52 AM

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Imaginary F(r)iend

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

+1

Yes, setting up gii in certain street is really secondary. Call, ul since you are most likely going to lose and move on.

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07-23-2015 , 12:29 PM

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just_grindin

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Not really a hard decision like I said just saw 50bb and thought we should be able to Gii sooner without looking at logistics of bet sizing to make that happen. You really think villain is going to fold anymore frequently if we just mash pot? I don't.

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07-24-2015 , 11:19 AM

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Peter3041

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depends how passive he is, if he can of hit worse 2 pairs and is doing this then got to call but think we all know what he really has.

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07-24-2015 , 08:33 PM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by Peter3041

depends how passive he is, if he can of hit worse 2 pairs and is doing this then got to call but think we all know what he really has.

of course we do. if he didn't have a flush then this ****ery wouldn't have been posted.

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07-25-2015 , 09:23 PM

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Wolf,

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obv call

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07-27-2015 , 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Wp, including bet sizes.

No one would have said anything about setting up a turn jam if this precise event didn't happen -- typical reactionary and results-oriented "avoid the 'tough' decision you faced in the hand" advice.

You would size it like this for three streets?

80% 80% 30%?

seems a bit meh to me

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07-29-2015 , 10:56 AM

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Imaginary F(r)iend

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Originally Posted by lvr

You would size it like this for three streets?

80% 80% 30%?

seems a bit meh to me

What is the problem vs passive?

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07-30-2015 , 06:01 PM

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ebet33

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Ya nm vs 50bb stack think two street gii is better

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