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Old 07-14-2012, 01:21 PM   #1
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400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

In this thread I shall elicit opinions about how to bluff the LAGfish.

Contrary to common opinion I don`t agree that its acceptable to become a tight pussy when faced with a adjustable and smart LAGfish. I agree with most that one needs widen ones calling range, but also on boards like this when there isn`t much hand that can call, I feel that a well-timed rebluff and maybe even rerebluff can be imperative to maximizing ones crush rate versus this type of opponent.

Feel free to post some hands where you yourself bluffed away a LAGfish... successfully or failingly.

Hero (CO): $1,971 Excuse me but I did not have my stats recorder at the time of play.
BTN: $2,803 - tight, nitty player on a heater
SB: $2,198 - The LAGfish in question
BB: $390 - another bad reg who is slowly bleeding his moneys away to the rest of the table
UTG: $1,144 - This player's play is reminiscent in style to that of legendary David Peat 'Viffer'.

SB posts SB $2, BB posts BB $4, Hero posts ante $0.50, BTN posts ante $0.50, SB posts ante $0.50, BB posts ante $0.50, UTG posts ante $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $8.50) Hero has T 3
UTG raises to $14, Hero calls $14, fold, SB calls $12, BB calls $10

Flop: ($58.50, 4 players) K K 4
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $43, SB raises to $112, fold, fold, Hero raises to $275, SB calls $163

When he raises I feel he is respondng to my clear Position Play with some nonsense or the rare triple KKK, I do not feel he has a pocket pair much as he must 3bet the higher ones preflop and a lot of K-rag fold or 3bet pre, KA and KQ 3bet pre, other K`s trap some amount of the time etc. All in all I feel this LAGfish is particularly prone to have excessive air here.

Turn: ($608.50, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $428

Well, so he has less air than I thought, but still some nonzero amt, given I probably check back the flush draw; if he has some kind of fd himself it likely avoids the 7 given flopline, and possibly he can have a 4x or 55 too. Who knows. By the time of the turn we have each invested around 300 Dollars into the middle so I think there is enough ammunition yet to blow off all the above hand types for sure, each alone not substantive but combined representing a decent part of his range. Katchoo Katchoo!!!

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Old 07-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #2
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:04 PM   #3
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

lol this thread is so full of awesomeness. I'm now going to look up other posts by author. I can only hope that several of them are half as entertaining as OP.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #4
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

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By the time of the turn we have each invested around 300 Dollars into the middle so I think there is enough ammunition yet to blow off all the above hand types for sure
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

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Old 07-17-2012, 03:02 PM   #6
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

Oh come now, guys.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:10 PM   #7
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

Hand is tertibly played and completely unnecessary...not much else to say about it really.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:13 PM   #8
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

I wish I could play on party poker.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:13 PM   #9
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

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Old 07-17-2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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You're such a tight pussy(cat).

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Old 07-17-2012, 05:17 PM   #11
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

u seem to want some real responses

this is abject madness on every street, imo. if you're going to pull these kinds of shenanigans, pull them with a hand with at least SOME kind of showdown value or backdoor equity.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:27 PM   #12
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

what is an adjustable and smart LAGfish
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:40 PM   #13
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

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Old 07-17-2012, 11:22 PM   #14
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Fish are pretty smart. They travel in schools after all.
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:14 AM   #15
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Re: 400NL Fighting Fire with Fire: When to Bluff a LAGfish?

I reason with everything you said OP, wp.
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