villain is 28/25 with a BB 3b of 11.

my BTN opening range is 40% and my call 3bet % is 22 (all positions)

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($466)
BB ($669)
UTG ($634)
CO ($1,118)
Hero ($400)

Dealt to Hero A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $12, fold, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $28

FLOP ($82) 9 8 Q

BB bets $49, Hero calls $49

TURN ($180) 9 8 Q 3

BB bets $94, Hero calls $94

RIVER ($368) 9 8 Q 3 4

BB shoves


i think the flop and turn are fairly standard, but i think i have an interesting decision on the river.

at first glance folding looks very nitty, but this board is very good for our range and one we would be inclined to slowplay on some % of the time, so if he has no reason to believe we are nitty enough to fold top pair should we consider doing so?

Im 4betting pre and def not folding.. every draw misses, besides he can even even shove worse for value sometimes.

(and I dont get the thread title)

oops, had two different hands i was thinking of posting, got confused with the thread title.

Perform a victory dance, call. I would not call that a decision, most ppl would assume you to raise a hand this strong earlier in the hand and try to bully you into folding a perceived pair + GS or w/e or thin value shoving QK.

Just calling preflop seems OK for me since you're pretty tight OTB and he doesnt seem that much of a maniac from the BB.

do you guys think this is a good board to keep bluffing on in BBs shoes?

i would be check/giving up on the river with AK if i didn't have a read.

once u call turn we have to flick it in on this river otherwise we gonna get exploited alot by any decent/gd reg

Or this was a Freudian slip and you want to know if u played bad or got coolered

This is an easy call sirin

raising at any point instead of calling is also valid. don't know what the clear best way to play it is, so I would just say mix it up, sometimes raising flop, sometimes jamming turn, sometimes slowplaying.

ez call on the river. Might consider jamming turn or raising flop up because of the drawiness of the board.

Raising flop or turn puts a lot of the worse made hands (and all of his bluffs) into terrible spots and probably over-represents your hand a bit - I'd rarely expect someone to raise with J9 in your position to induce a shove, for example.

Jamming turn doesn't represent a lot of air either, so it's probably OK as a bluff but for a lot of people, two barreling here means that they just have a strong enough range or the intention of three-barreling anyway. If that's the case, then jamming only accomplishes stopping his bluffing range from putting in a likely river bet, costing you a lot of money with a made hand.

Calling flop and turn also protects the weaker portions of your range and fits into an overall game plan; although there is definitely a trade off dodging all the straightening cards and maybe that king ball.

2-barrelling a hand like AK would be burning money. The only reason for barreling it, given its extremely low equity, would be that you precisely expect your opponent to call/call/fold.

If he ever does this with worse for value then we can never fold. I propose that he takes this like with KQ 100% of the time. Now whether or not he has any bluffs in his range i don't know but he doesn't need to very often as long as he has worse for value sometimes.

its not like i'm going to make a habit out of folding strong hands in three bet pots or fold face up so i don't see how "being exploited" is a concern.

putting aside the fact that calling twice protects our range for a minute, i'm surprised that you think that shoving the turn makes it difficult for us to get paid off - i feel like a lot of people might shrug/call a lot of hands on the turn that can put us on a draw, for example TT,JJ,QJ,QK. some of these will probably check/fold the river. is this too optimistic?

it also, as you suggested, protects our hand somewhat.