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Old 07-31-2012, 04:36 PM   #331
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Re: 400nl 6m TPTK in 4b pot but is it good?

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:36 PM   #332
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I'm fine with the 45 minute session provision, and if we can logistically work out the teamviewer thing I'm fine with that as well, but I doubt CR wants to be watching our sessions just to make sure we don't have something illegal up. Also if we have tv up wouldn't that also defeat the point of the task manager because tv would be listed there and we could have multiple people connected? I guess one alternative would be we could both be streaming just our task bar during the entirety of all our matches and then if anyone watching the screen noticed anything illegal being run the offending party immediately loses the bet? If we offered like $100 out of the 10k to whoever catches it and posted it in nvg or something I'm sure we'd have like 50 busto's watching both of our streams every time we played.
okay fine. I don't quite understand this exactly, but I think I get the general idea. Someone will have to inform me as to how to stream my task bar.

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But regardless of how we enforce it we should definitely mention in the rules that should CR determine either of us has cheated in any way shape or form not only is the entire bet forfeited but he has the power to award the cheated party another 5k. Not sure how we want to phrase it but that would then prevent cheating even if one of us is down on the bet enough that they have a small chance to win because cheating risks more than just the first 5k.
This doesn't make any sense to me. How in what was are either of us going to be able to cheat when down A LOT and somehow be able to make a comeback? I don't agree to any extra funds being awarded to anyone at any point.
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I mean honestly I'm not super worried about you cheating no one good enough is really going to cheat for you for the amount we're betting/playing for so I'll let you make w/e rules you want in regards to cheating and as long as you follow them as well I'm fine with them because I know myself that I won't be cheating.
I'm less worried about getting outright cheated by some HS crusher (I only mentioned that when you were still anonymous) than getting teamplayed by you and your scummy friends.

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Also supposedly djo has messaged you with escrow info. I'll be sending now but obviously the bet is not official yet until we both agree to one set of rules. This means that technically at any point before agreeing to a final set of rules either of us can back out and have the escrow money sent back. I'm not saying this will happen I'm just saying it to prevent either side from being able to exploit the fact that money is escrowed to influence the rules unfairly.
One last rule...The 10k hands shouldn't take more than 3 months. I don't want you stalling once you get down a lot.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:39 PM   #333
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I (djo) have received $5k from Zach (on Lock) and $5k from Marshall (on BCP). Have also talked with them on Skype.

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Zach's funds are on lock? not merge?
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:54 AM   #334
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:24 AM   #335
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I don't know what's going on but GL Marshall28
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:29 AM   #336
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GL Marshall. I am pretty sure if you don't run terribly you will have a nice little payday.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:10 PM   #337
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Zach's funds are on lock? not merge?
Check with Djo, but I'm certain he has enough on both sites to cover either way so this doesn't really matter.


Lets get this started already.


Thoughts on what a reasonable line would be here?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:34 PM   #338
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Personally I think zach prob has edge
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:42 PM   #339
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Waiting for zach to agree to the terms. I'm running errands all day and tomorrow to get this new business up and running then flying to back to San Diego to find a new apartment. I probably won't be able to start for a few days. Earliest would be this weekend.

Not going to 4 table HU on a laptop.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:03 PM   #340
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I just got robbed last night so been super busy dealing with that and I'm busy during the week anyway as it is so probably won't have much time during the week either. Weekend should be good for me though.

edit: I'll try to finalize a version of the rules and we can agree and book everything then get it started
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:19 PM   #341
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Zach's funds are on lock? not merge?
Told djo I was gonna get a transfer over to merge to send him and he said don't worry about it. I wasn't sure if he meant he could cover the conversion or whether he'd talked to you on skype and you'd agreed (clearly not) or what the deal was, but if you need to I can definitely send merge it's not that hard to find xfers back and forth at 1:1 these days.


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This doesn't make any sense to me. How in what was are either of us going to be able to cheat when down A LOT and somehow be able to make a comeback? I don't agree to any extra funds being awarded to anyone at any point.
Since you're so much better than me, let's pretend I'm down 15k in the bet with 1k hands to go. I literally have nothing to lose then if I cheat. I'm going to lose the 5k regardless so worst case if I cheat I get caught and lose the 5k I was going to lose anyway. If we add the terms for extra penalty though this goes away. I'm not all that worried about you cheating and the potential of BCP confiscating money/hit to your reputation/etc. is probably big enough already so I'm fine taking off that provision.

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I'm less worried about getting outright cheated by some HS crusher (I only mentioned that when you were still anonymous) than getting teamplayed by you and your scummy friends.
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One last rule...The 10k hands shouldn't take more than 3 months. I don't want you stalling once you get down a lot.
agreed. Even if we only play on weekends I don't see why this should take longer than one month, I'm fine putting 3 months in the rules although it'll be hard to enforce if it's a case of our schedules just not matching.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:27 PM   #342
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Both Marshall28 and zachvac will escrow $5,000.00 to djo. ChicagoRy will serve as the judge and will have final say on any and all disagreements.

10,000 hands will be played at 3/6 HU nlhe between Marshall28 and zachvac on the Merge network (arrival10 and ReDLiNeMaKeDiKHaRd on Merge). They will both buy in for 100bb ($600) and will have auto-reload on. They will be playing 4 tables at a time unless both agree on another number. Whoever has the highest net profit after exactly 10,000 hands will be the winner and win the $10,000.00 being held in escrow by djo. It is possible both net profits will be negative, the winner is still the player with the greater net.

During the match both players must be streaming a list of their currently running programs to some publicly available place online and are prohibited from running any screen-sharing programs such as teamviewer or mikogo.

No session will last less than 45 minutes. Once a session begins, a max of one 10 minute break per 45 minutes will be allowed barring an emergency.

This challenge should take no longer than 3 months. The judge (ChicagoRy) has the power to intervene should one party be obviously delaying the process with punishments up to and including awarding one party the entire $10,000.00 being held in escrow.

After each session, both players will agree on session profits and hands played and this will be posted on 2p2. Should there be a discrepancy, the judge (ChicagoRy) will have the final say.

djo's only duties are to confirm the money has been received, hold the money, and to send money to whoever the judge (ChicagoRy) directs him to. He has no judging powers whatsoever in this bet.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:31 PM   #343
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Re: 400nl 6m TPTK in 4b pot but is it good?

this should be fun. kudos to both guys for battling it out. please keep us updated as to win sessions are going down so we can check it out.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:57 PM   #344
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Someone please PM me when this is starting
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