It's Monday ....

Speaking to djo right now, I'll have him post here and I'll have sent my 5k to him tonight for sure.

LET'S HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

~1 hour ago I had drafted zach a PM telling him to do the right thing re: this challenge. It looks like he has.

Hey marshall, you are going to make a 'training' vid about this match yeah? It'll be fun (no jk). You can do 1 per sess. So, 1 live audio. 1 HH replay. 1 post-match audio etc. depending on how many sessions the match takes.

making a training vid from this match would be really smart. im sure it would get alot of views that arent regular watchers of your videos and bring atleast a few new subscriptions to whatever site youre with

ok he said he was gonna be back in 45 minutes like an hour ago. I think his BCP name is LOLYOUFOLD and leaving him a message to please post and confirm his agreement to escrow in this thread. I'm heading out probably be back in a couple hours.

I do want to say in advance that I talk to djo occasionally on skype and have met him in real life. That said I made it very clear he was doing 0 judging on this bet. He will simply confirm receiving 5k from each of us and then send the 10k to whoever the judge says won the bet. So him kinda being friends with me shouldn't make any difference whatsoever.

Like I said I'm heading out when I get back I will send to him if he's responded. Either way I will type up a set of rules basically just stating what we've agreed to and we can agree/run it by judge and hopefully start in the next couple days.

If you want to see this, I suggest contacting CR and letting them know... the more people who are interested the more likely they will be to sign off on it.

I know djo. I have worked w/ him in affiliate deals so it's fine I have no problem with it. Type up the rules, have ChicagoRy and myself sign off on it and I will then send my escrow to the account djo PM's to me.

ok lemme know how this looks:


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Both Marshall28 and zachvac will escrow $5,000.00 to djo. ChicagoRy will serve as the judge and will have final say on any and all disagreements.

10,000 hands will be played at 3/6 HU nlhe between Marshall28 and zachvac on the Merge network (arrival10 and ReDLiNeMaKeDiKHaRd on Merge). They will both buy in for 100bb ($600) and will have auto-reload on. They will be playing 4 tables at a time unless both agree on another number. Whoever has the highest net profit after exactly 10,000 hands will be the winner and win the $10,000.00 being held in escrow by djo. It is possible both net profits will be negative, the winner is still the player with the greater net.

There will be no official timeframe required by the rules but the judge (ChicagoRy) has the power to intervene should one party be obviously delaying the process with punishments up to and including awarding one party the entire $10,000.00 being held in escrow.

After each session, both players will agree on session profits and hands played and this will be posted on 2p2. Should there be a discrepancy, the judge (ChicagoRy) will have the final say.

djo's only duties are to confirm the money has been received, hold the money, and to send money to whoever the judge (ChicagoRy) directs him to. He has no judging powers whatsoever in this bet.
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I just typed this up relatively fast and I'm pretty tired so this should not be considered binding rules on me at all, but rather a rough draft. I'll re-read when I'm not so tired and let me know if there's something wrong with these/missing and we can come up with a final version. I think djo's gone for the night but I'll have him pm marshall and myself with where to ship and I will ship as soon as I get that info.

Also once we do get rules ironed out I'll make a HUNL thread unless someone else wants to.

What I'd like to add is that we both should be required to use the software listed by a previous poster that ensures neither of us are remotely connected to another user. This ensures it will be us and solely us clicking the buttong.

Also, we should agree to always play 4 tables and that upon sitting down to stay, no session will be shorter than 45 minutes. After 45 minutes, either has the option to quit for the day. No extended breaks in the middle of those 45 minutes, one 10 minute break per 45 minutes is permissible.

Everything else looks good.

This is the post I was referencing ....

So you guys are going to find a reputable 3rd party to verify you're not being cheated before the start of each session and this person will keep tabs on the process window throughout each session? Seems kinda crazy but maybe I'm missing something.

If someone really wanted to cheat wouldn't they just have a friend on the phone with the tables open as well, ready to give advice on any close decisions and big pots? The cheating duo would simply arrange the tables in the same way and call them 1-4 (like in a video) and relay hole cards when a close spot comes up.

The whole TV thing seems like so much hassle and it certainly does not guarantee a cheat free match although you would be protected from playing another player entirely I guess.

zach said he'd leave his camera on the whole time we are playing

I'm fine with the 45 minute session provision, and if we can logistically work out the teamviewer thing I'm fine with that as well, but I doubt CR wants to be watching our sessions just to make sure we don't have something illegal up. Also if we have tv up wouldn't that also defeat the point of the task manager because tv would be listed there and we could have multiple people connected? I guess one alternative would be we could both be streaming just our task bar during the entirety of all our matches and then if anyone watching the screen noticed anything illegal being run the offending party immediately loses the bet? If we offered like $100 out of the 10k to whoever catches it and posted it in nvg or something I'm sure we'd have like 50 busto's watching both of our streams every time we played.

But regardless of how we enforce it we should definitely mention in the rules that should CR determine either of us has cheated in any way shape or form not only is the entire bet forfeited but he has the power to award the cheated party another 5k. Not sure how we want to phrase it but that would then prevent cheating even if one of us is down on the bet enough that they have a small chance to win because cheating risks more than just the first 5k.

I mean honestly I'm not super worried about you cheating no one good enough is really going to cheat for you for the amount we're betting/playing for so I'll let you make w/e rules you want in regards to cheating and as long as you follow them as well I'm fine with them because I know myself that I won't be cheating.

Also supposedly djo has messaged you with escrow info. I'll be sending now but obviously the bet is not official yet until we both agree to one set of rules. This means that technically at any point before agreeing to a final set of rules either of us can back out and have the escrow money sent back. I'm not saying this will happen I'm just saying it to prevent either side from being able to exploit the fact that money is escrowed to influence the rules unfairly.

Literally just xfered djo the money though, he should confirm when he gets it from both of us.

I (djo) have received $5k from Zach (on Lock) and $5k from Marshall (on BCP). Have also talked with them on Skype.

GL!

this should be fun...