Villain is one of the best regs at this limit imo. Isn't overly laggy, just very good and solid. But obv knows how/when to bluff.

Prolly sees me as aggro, mb spewy. SB if a fishy player, altho not a whale.

Where (if?) do we fold?


iPoker - $10 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $1,005.00
Hero (BTN): $1,048.00
SB: $290.00

SB posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $10.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero has 5 K

Hero raises to $20.00, SB calls $15.00, BB calls $10.00

Flop: ($60.00, 3 players) K K 8
SB checks, BB bets $50.00, Hero calls $50.00, fold

Turn: ($160.00, 2 players) A
BB bets $130.00, Hero calls $130.00

River: ($420.00, 2 players) 7
BB bets $270.00

fold.

If you have him beat it's because he is turning a suited A-rag hand into a bluff. But I don't know if he bets the turn with Ax.

I could see myself playing Kx and XX like this so it's not a super tough fold. Risky bluff and he kinda gets a way with murder if Hero folds the river.

Was just thinking that my flop range for calling is so wide (Ax, PPs, 8x), and I might raise strong Kx/FDs some of the time, so on that turn card he should be bluffing very often... so on the river he prolly has quite a bit of air, and it's not unconvievable to believe I shouldn't have many flushes, and prolly fold all Ax combos, as well as a few weak Kx combos, so he might be bluffing enough. But I dunno, we also have the problem with how many air-hands he leads this flop with.

I agree that he's going to barrel that turn with alot of his air, but I just wouldn't assume that his flop leading range has that many air hands to begin with. He's donking into a LAG and a shortstack fish, I think we need to give him credit for a reasonably strong range. Even if he gets to river with alot of air, I think he'll give up on this brick often because he should assume that the turn barrel folded out most of your weak (non-Kx, non-flush) hands. Further, I think this is how you would play a number of strong hands. So you can call with those stronger hands and still avoid being exploited.

dont we want to trap the fish in the pot with Kx and fd? I am very inclined to bluffraise such donk since i am expected to make a Cbet preety often so why donk good hands in this spot at first place?

Yeah with the fish in the pot (esp with a shortstack) and your image it doesn't seem likely this is a total air bluff. While you're right that your flop call indicates a lot weakness, his flop lead is probably strong for the above reasons. Basically what Mossberg said.

I think you're flatting range on the flop is pretty strong, or at least stronger than normal with shortstack fish behind you. What do you think of shoving here, get him to fold better Kx/flushes? I like it here since I don't see what you can be turning into a bluff, considering you fold 8x/99 on the turn.

you could always go arrin

yea, I could also set fire to a 200$ bill. About equally smart.

arrrinnnn is always smart

I hate it. I mean, obv he doesn't fold any flush/FH, might not even fold KJ (which I even block). I'm repping hands like weak Kx/Ax so well, wheras it's hard to flop sets. Add to that, that he almost certinly doesn't think I would shove less than the nutflush, if even that. I just don't think my image let's me get away with shoving here.

You actually think he'll put you on weak Kx here if you shove? What weak Kx do you have in your range? What Ax do you have in your range flatting flop ? Seems to me if your flatting range on the flop is that weak then this is a definite river call.

Obviously I'll have a lot of weak kings in my range, I'm on the button and BB is a somewhat fishy player. I'm opening a ton, and he knows it

wp