[1000NL] Overpair facing a c-bet from a tight guy in a 4way pot - Page 2 - Medium Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

EVplusEV · 04-13-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CopTHIS

Why on earth would you think he is betting ALL pocket pairs and any two big cards? I mean, that is almost all of his UTG + 1 opening range - you realise that the 16% is an average and he's opening much less here right?

Euhm now i'm confused...
Hero posted he's 17/15 with a 16% MP opening range (doenst HM specify between UTG+1 and MP?)

Since when is AKs and AQs with backdoors any two big cards?
It just doesn't look like the type who's check/anything 55 or 66 here. Maybe he's folding 22

BuddhaMonk187 · 04-13-2012, 01:13 PM

i think i'd rather call flop with AK than with a PP...

mperich · 04-13-2012, 01:49 PM

Prettttty easy fold here w/ 2 left to act behind

pfc_ivan12323232 · 04-13-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EVplusEV

Euhm now i'm confused...
Hero posted he's 17/15 with a 16% MP opening range (doenst HM specify between UTG+1 and MP?)

Since when is AKs and AQs with backdoors any two big cards?
It just doesn't look like the type who's check/anything 55 or 66 here. Maybe he's folding 22

UTG+1 is MP in a 6max game, Also his turn cbet is 60%. Obviously he isnt c-betting this much in a 4way pot for sure.

Marshall28 · 04-14-2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagles

Thinking that a player who cbets 80% is, cbetting 80% of his opening range 4 ways is fairly absurd.

this obviously.

BonitaMadras · 04-14-2012, 03:25 AM

any of you guys want to comment on my last post ?
i gave him a range of all sets, overpairs and big cards with backdoor fd's which comes at about 8% of hands. Is that too optimistic ?

Not trying to argue but some of you guys who said its an easy fold are definitely better than myself so im interested in their thoughts.

slowlane123 · 04-14-2012, 10:49 AM

Folding mway.

Calling HU.

Marshall28 · 04-14-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BonitaMadras

any of you guys want to comment on my last post ?
i gave him a range of all sets, overpairs and big cards with backdoor fd's which comes at about 8% of hands. Is that too optimistic ?

I don't know the guy, but I'd assume as a standard for a decent regular that only 4-5% of total hands will get c-bet here. This number could go up or down based on recent history/image and table dynamic.

Asino · 06-11-2012, 12:13 PM

Maybe I miss something,
I would 3bet pre to 90/100 (wrong?), but when we call pre, what board we expect not to fold?

finsfan7 · 06-13-2012, 07:20 PM

I would call and re-evaluate, I could see a tight-aggressive player cont. betting 33-AA, AKss and A5ss here. You're behind 33 of those combos and ahead of 34.