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NL 200 Setting the trap w/QQ NL 200 Setting the trap w/QQ

07-16-2017 , 06:55 AM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.3 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 31)
SB: 130 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (MP): 102.83 BB
CO: 215.19 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 3 3 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

River: (59.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 100.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 73.83 BB and is all-in

Small sample size, but villain is LAG so far. What do you guys think about my line to trap the villain?
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07-16-2017 , 09:24 PM
If villain is agressively 3 betting you then you will want to construct a 4 bet range and I think QQ should be in that range.

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07-24-2017 , 10:17 PM
This is a good line and you are not exactly trapping here.

If the villain is a very aggressive 3bettor I suggest that you should polarize your 4betting range. If he is just a monkey who never 3bet/folds, don't 4bet polarized, instead, 4bet wider for value.
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07-25-2017 , 12:17 AM
Yeah like everyone said above, maybe working in a 4 bet range against this opponent. Also against someone who isn't a LAG, I would have led on the turn to get value and protect from the drawing hands. But against a LAG I think your line is fine.
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07-30-2017 , 03:44 AM
Pretty much a mandatory 4bet/call it off v an agro reg. QQ isn't really capable of being slowplayed pre flop, most hands in his 3b range have solid equity and will realize a lot more in position.
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08-02-2017 , 10:05 AM
Why the minraise pre?
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08-09-2017 , 09:04 PM
4b pre should be slightly better than call
flop raise is worse than call if he's aggro, meaning he barrels a bit too much
turn raise is very similar to call, but hard to be sure, depends how he constructs his 3b range (more A5s/98s or ATo/KJo?)

it's played fine but the EVs of other lines are all very similar.
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08-10-2017 , 02:48 PM
Raise larger pre-flop. You're aiming to force big blind indifference most of the time and there are other great externalities that come from slightly larger raise sizes, one being that you can 4 bet this pre-flop without giving yourself an awful risk to reward ratio on a 5 bet shove against some players.

If you're "trapping", QQ isn't a great hand for it. Over cards come far too often and you'll still have a bluff catcher out of position. You'll be seeing several board textures with several different hands for this price and with these stack sizes, so adding QQ to the mix probably won't add as much value to your calling range as it will add to your pre-flop re-raising range.

Being able to re-raise the top 2-3% of hands is also a nice threat to have in your game so that players know they aren't able to 3 bet in position with near impunity and realize the equity of the hands with which they choose to re-raise you.
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08-10-2017 , 05:09 PM
It's fine.

You need to have some big pairs vs lag in 3bet pot oop.
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08-13-2017 , 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lililili11
It's fine.

You need to have some big pairs vs lag in 3bet pot oop.
I'm not sure that's universally the case. Loose-aggressive players are loose and aggressive in different dynamics a lot of the time, so to call someone a LAG oversimplifies the issue a bit.

If your opponent re-raises often and folds to four bets often, then slow playing does make more sense. Again, though, you're dodging over card heavy boards very often and realizing your hand's value out of position is difficult.

A better recommendation might be to adjust the relative value of hands with which you do call pre-flop and increase how you view them. For example, AQ on a K23 board might be a very good hand because you can be reasonably sure that all the bluffs your opponent has will fire again and that you still rate to have the best hand against a very wide re-raising range.

By adjusting the way you deal with post-flop hand values, you've essentially "added slow plays" to your calling range without the negative of using your most powerful hands that are also reasonably vulnerable post-flop to slow play pre-flop.
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08-22-2017 , 07:01 AM
not a very good line. You very lucky to hit a queen on the river. Would you be comfortable to call the jam if a heart,ace or king hit the river?. The check on the river was even worse, if the villain was holding anything like 66-jj he would propably check back the river. You would be propably loosing money if you play queens this way oftenly.
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08-22-2017 , 12:38 PM
Trap XC with mostly AA occasionally KK and just value bet or XR with QQ/JJ/TT. They need a fair amount of protection compared to Aces.
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08-23-2017 , 02:01 PM
Nice wp what did he have
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09-04-2017 , 02:17 PM
I raise flop hoping to get value from smaller pairs that check back lots of turns. I bet every turn if he calls. A/K turns especially because I think I get credit for barreling scare cards and called by basically every pair that calls the flop raise.

If your calling flop and hoping for more barrels, what cards do you think villain bluffs on. I would guess A/K/Q/J. 2/4 of these you hate and unless you have a read its going to be a tough call down. For all the other turn cards likely hood of bluffing drops, so your kind of hopping they are value towning themselves.
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