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Getting value from flopped str8 Getting value from flopped str8

12-16-2009 , 01:47 PM
Hi,

What are ur thoughts on my line in this hand?

Villian is playing 17/10 with cbet stats of 72/61/43 and a afq of 51
He steals 32% and folds 60% when his cbet on flop is raised (10K+ hands)

I have been playing 18/16 which I assume is his read



IPoker Network $3.00/$6.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (BB): $875.80
UTG: $834.30
UTG+1: $130.65
UTG+2: $111.00
MP1: $842.10
MP2: $105.00
CO: $483.10
BTN: $813.45
SB: $603.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with J Q
5 folds, CO raises to $18.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) T 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $32.00, Hero raises to $114.00, CO calls $82

Turn: ($267.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $140.00, Hero calls $140

River: ($547.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $136.75, CO folds


My thoughts:

PREFLOP
I choose to call preflop, since I have 3bet him more then usual, and given his fold to cbet raise stat, I think that I can C/R him off a lot of flops


FLOP
I thinks he often havent his this flop, and all im gonna get is his cbet, so I choose to C/R hoping that he puts me on a semmibluff with a J and decides to call with a pair.

TURN
He called, so he got some kind of a hand. unfortunately the Q means that if I was succesful representing having a J for a semmibluff, he know has me on a str8 and properly wont pay me if I bet again. Therefore I decide to check the turn, and bet around 1/2 on riwer, to get a crying call out of overpair or set.

He bets when I check, and I put him on the following range:

Air, trying to rep the J - maybe he picked up a backdoor FD

Set, but that is somewhat unlikely since I expect a set to check here?

Overpair, that is trying to protect his hand.

I decided to call and bet real small on riwer, hoping he will call me down with a worse hand if he gets a really good price
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12-16-2009 , 02:23 PM
CRAI turn goddammit! as played push river or check again if u want to be supertricky. Fishy river bet imo, "bet real small on the river" hmm, leaving him with 74 if he calls.
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12-16-2009 , 03:36 PM
Have to raise that turn...you didnt..now you have to check that river..you didnt...good hand anyway.
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12-16-2009 , 05:33 PM
after a 17/10 calls our c/r on this flop I'm giving him a pretty big hand, and definitely betting the turn. There's just so many hands that would peel a river trying to boat up or hoping you check a blank, and none of those hands should technically be betting this turn if you check to him.

I don't think you really induce that many river calls by checking the turn, if he calls river after you check turn he would most likely call a turnbet and even though it's unlikely you may get him to spaz out and give you two streets of value rather than just one. He's 17/10, tight/passive, his brain may just shut down and only see that he has a set/two pair

also lol at his halfpotting turn/folding riv. Villain seems really awful
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12-16-2009 , 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mce86
Have to raise that turn
why? Just giving up on getting value from anything? turning your hand into a bluff to try to get him to fold a chop?

Is there any hand at all you would ever c/r this turn that doesnt have a J? Doubt it
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12-16-2009 , 08:39 PM
ugh bet turn
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12-17-2009 , 12:48 AM
u played it excellent obv
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12-19-2009 , 08:30 AM
yah, plz bet turn
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