Reopen the thread! In the interest of truth, justice and the American way, I call on you to stand and deliver.

The Beast can't say that I have ever trolled him.

ummm yeah, seconded

I like the Beast, I like his voice and I like his never say die attitude. He comes back into threads at will, which is fine, but it seems wrong to allow one person to dictate to the masses as to which threads stay open.

We have contests going on, plenty of joking around and yes, a bit of trolling. (Hey, I took my lumps last week, lol.) His persona is not going to be erased by closing single threads, if I were him I'd be charging people for my posts and making a fortune.

Probably not a great look to take the side of a known scammer across multiple sites and give him what he wants. Nimadamus is a known thief who buys twitter followers and uses other accounts to praise his picks even though he has proven over the better part of a decade that he consistently goes broke from betting sports. Others need to be warned about Nimadamus aka thebayareabeast before they get scammed.

Mat,
Babs has, as recently as a few days ago, continued to ask to be unbanned so that he can post in the thread. Now apparently he throws a temper tantrum like a five-year-old not because he truly disapproves of a thread about him existing, but because he can't participate in it. That's not a valid reason to lock a thread. "Scammer is upset that people call him a scammer" is also not a valid reason to lock a thread.

Logistically, I'm quite sure that the OOT LC thread regs who don't care about the subject want the posts spilling over there, and if the site position is that mods are to take action to stop posters from ever discussing Babs in any thread...I dunno, have fun with that I guess.

In any case, it would probably be worth asking Babs if he was just kidding about this latest temper tantrum that led him to email you anyway. He doesn't generally like for his words to simply be taken at face value.

Babs' most significant achievement to mankind has been ended.

Got linked here from OOT LC thread....is one of the purposes of 2p2 not to self-police the "community"? Not only was there a warning in the OP but half the posters in there would beat the proverbial dead horse of outing tbab as shady almost constantly. Now that warning will no longer exist(or might as well not) on the internet's largest gambling forum.

bankroll management you idiot

Please reopen the thread so the LC doesn't get ruined any more than it already has.

Some of us don't read that thread and don't want the LC clogged with that ****.

A purpose for the Penetrates containment thread has been identified!

If the goal is to warn posters about someone scamming with a tout service, wouldn't a thread in the Sports Betting forum be much more appropriate? Not suggesting anyone start one right now, but I think it would be a much more suitable venue if an open thread about him is to exist.

As for the threads being locked, Mat asked a couple of us for opinions on this a number of days ago. I told him that locking seemed fine to me, but I was against deleting - with the threads locked, any allegations of scams remain to be viewed and are searchable in the forums.

Now, if there truly are new scams being perpetrated, that could change my viewpoint.

If SB doesn't want it, I'd welcome it here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23...back-disputes/

But I'm not saying I'm convinced yet there needs to be an open thread anywhere, just that I'd welcome it there if there is to be one.

About the only thing I like better than scammers being outted is giving them enough rope to (proverbially) hang themselves.

this is a good place for someone to succinctly explain the history of the user in question for anyone, including me, who doesn't necessarily have all of the story.

and then a justification of allowing what seems to be a crazy mob beating up on a guy above and beyond what might be deserved.

Nope

I for one don't think that guy should be let back in oot because it would probably be bad for his mental health. I dont know his scamming record outside of that one thread but if on an jerk scale of 1-10 hes an 9 or above then ok but if hes below a 9 i say no. Your all just picking on someone with problems.

I know you're capable of better than this, and you actually have some open minds listening.

This is something I'm concerned about as well.

tBab is a guy who's married degenerate gambling with internet trolling for the last 10+ years. something about the way he reacts and communicates on the internet is intriguing.

his journey basically ended in OOT. its where he found a critical mass of smart people to call out all his bull**** AND a place that wouldn't ban him when he exploded into an inept puddle of profanities.

tBabs been sportbetting for over a decade and has the knowledge a normal person would soak up in a few hours of research. he is absolutely clueless, and absolutely sure he's a winner. it's hilarious.

as far as a meta-justification goes I'll pass, but tBab is marketing himself as a successful sports bettor and soliciting customers. the main purpose of the thread you locked was to lol at his tout service and warn potential victims. there's a 0% he's a winning sports bettor.

thanks Bobo, its a joke from the other thread and I couldn't resist

It's not possible to go beyond what is deserved.

Well, a beast has a complete lack of self-awareness and endless delusions about his abilities as a sports bettor, so yes, he has problems.

But shutting down discussion of his endless efforts to scam people into subscribing to his picks only feeds those issues imo.

this, imo, is one of the reasons tBab has had no much staying power. there are things about him that should engender a lot sympathy and restraint. but he doesn't. at all. he's one of the least sympathetic characters I've come across on the internet.

and it's not as if its all trashing all the time. thread regulars have:

-written him a polished resume
-at least headhunter-type professional offered to help with his job search
-consistently given him quality life advice whenever he asked
-invited him to see his favorite sports team play
-offered to book his sportsbetting action (he knows he's a winner remember) against a ****ing coin.

Babs, under his many aliases, is someone who started a thread in OOT asking people if he should quit his job. Because he's a degenerate gambler, the topic organically veered toward his sports betting, because he's convinced that he's a genius sports bettor who just suffers bad beats. You know the type. He loved having the thread have so much traffic, so much attention, and repeated often how proud he was of the post count.

However, he does NOT like being criticized. He doesn't even really draw a distinction between truly well-meant and helpful criticism and deliberate trolling; he just sees it all as negativity that threatens his self-image. He has been known to respond to genuine constructive criticism by wishing death on the person, wishing cancer on the person, etc. When I say that, I'm not talking about isolated incidents where he says the wrong thing; I'm saying that's basically his go-to. So naturally that built up some acrimony between himself and a number of the users.

His personal background, as deduced from his posting, is that he's a spoiled trust fund baby of some sort who has a consistent influx of free money being handed down from somewhere within his family. It's clearly not a lot at a time...it's just enough to keep him afloat and in the action. He will tell you that he has it hard, and when he says that, what he means is that he just sits around all day in a condo that his dad pays for, and watches sports and loses money betting on them. Occasionally he feeds his turtles. As he would describe it, this is "hell on earth." The job that he was talking about quitting at the beginning eventually fired him quite some time ago.

However, his sports betting hobby drives him, again it upsets him that people think that he's bad at gambling (he's not just a little bit bad, he's historically bad), and he's determined to prove to the world that he's good at it. He's also determined to squeeze as much undeserved money out of the world as possible to keep himself in the action as much as possible, because he'll always go busto on the spending money he gets from whoever/whatever his benefactor is.

It's basically like we've gotten to watch the "TAKE MANEY, THE F DO" guy operate over the course of a longer period of time. For better or for worse, it's fascinating.

That's my attempt at a basic background.

He also considers it trolling if someone points out a basic fact to him. For example, if was going on and on about how the sky was green and someone pointed out to him that no, it is blue, he would consider that trolling start wishing death on everyone. Of course in a few days he would say "I was just joking, that's what we do here, right?"

Nice brief counsellor LKJ.

I think those threads should be opened. Invaluable things learned from them:

LKJ practices law in front of a stuffed animal jury.

jmakin is the captain of a milk crate carton.

I have multiple posting-personality disorder.

Saklad is a fruit.

Brock Landers has no money.

If one is short on sports betting funds, there is an unprecedented way of trading in breast milk to place another bet.

He also rented a room out in his dad's condo and took the money without telling him.

After being fired he used his unemployment money to fund a gambling trip to Reno. At Reno he used his EDD debit card at a casino, had his benefits revoked and then blamed several people in the thread for ratting him out to EDD