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06-15-2017 , 03:49 PM
Swing and a miss

06-15-2017 , 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Swing and a miss
If you wanted to change the subject to the Democrats' performance at the federal and state levels in the most recent elections, why didn't you just say so?
06-16-2017 , 11:31 AM
That makes no sense. Perhaps you think the press is the enemy because you're illiterate? Not sure how else to explain your inability to read five simple words and distinguish between a whole two different colors.
06-16-2017 , 05:17 PM
isn't there a special designated politard forum for sparkling banter like this? Don't waste all your best lines in an ATF thread now!
08-13-2017 , 04:35 PM
Bump for Mat's afro-chinese friend doing some more stuff that makes Mat laugh, if we're talking about reorganizing the forums we may want to consider what message it sends to have one regular Politics forum and then a white supremacy-friendly backup Politics forum.
08-13-2017 , 07:29 PM
Seems like consolidating P7 and SMP would make things more streamlined. Maybe host the POG politics discussion over there as well?
08-13-2017 , 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Bump for Mat's afro-chinese friend doing some more stuff that makes Mat laugh, if we're talking about reorganizing the forums we may want to consider what message it sends to have one regular Politics forum and then a white supremacy-friendly backup Politics forum.

who are you?
08-13-2017 , 08:16 PM
Maybe just have redirects for those forums directly to stormfront to save time?
08-13-2017 , 08:24 PM
please explain and cite /link examples. i don't look at any of the places you mention. some not for weeks and months, some, never.

give me cliffs, i believe, is the proper request?
08-13-2017 , 08:31 PM
actually, disregard my previous posts.

if there's a problem with some individual forums, those problems should be discussed. i have no particular interest in protecting any individual forum that might impact the rest of the site, negatively. no promises that discussion will lead to change, but the concerns won't be ignored without consideration.
08-13-2017 , 09:10 PM
You could have just typed "don't waste your time brah" it would have been faster.
08-13-2017 , 09:12 PM
The issue is that we disagree about what qualifies as a problem, bro
08-13-2017 , 09:40 PM
well chez is gonna have a lot of work to do deleting all the detestable posts before they get linked here. looks like he got rid of jiggys fast enough tho.
08-13-2017 , 09:50 PM
I'm not sure why Chez would waste his time as Mat has seen posts like that dozens or hundreds of times.
08-13-2017 , 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
actually, disregard my previous posts.

if there's a problem with some individual forums, those problems should be discussed. i have no particular interest in protecting any individual forum that might impact the rest of the site, negatively. no promises that discussion will lead to change, but the concerns won't be ignored without consideration.

So would you say what is deemed appropriate and inappropriate for the various forums ultimately comes down to the financial impacts on twoplustwo, rather than moral or ethical considerations?
08-14-2017 , 12:06 AM
I think Mat is happy to let mods decide what is appropriate or inappropriate for the various forums, as always. But if those decisions appear to be having a detrimental impact on the site overall, that would probably change.

At least that's the way I understand it from that post and Mat's past actions (or lack thereof).
08-14-2017 , 01:01 AM
OK, well, first off, nope. Everyone in Poltiics ****ing hates chez and he modded him to troll us.

Secondly, have some ****ing principles. Like if there really is majority support for a forum that consistently has alt-right garbage in it, there should be some ****ing introspection about what brought them here and why they stay.

When you are confronted with this **** and you say that it isn't about morals and ethics, that's bull****. Everyone knows there are moral and ethical boundaries here. What you're saying when you disclaim morality and ethics is that whatever issue you're talking about doesn't offend your personal morals and your personal ethics.
08-14-2017 , 01:24 AM
I know what you should do Fly...quit in protest about how badly you have been wronged.
08-14-2017 , 02:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Everyone in Poltiics ****ing hates chez and he modded him to troll us.
LOL.

But as for the rest of your post, I'll let Mat answer for himself.

Edit to add: Actually, I just noticed one part I'll put my two cents in on:

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
What you're saying when you disclaim morality and ethics is that whatever issue you're talking about doesn't offend your personal morals and your personal ethics.
I disagree with this. One can draw a line of what can be posted, morally and ethically, that is different from one's personal moral and ethical line.
08-14-2017 , 05:29 AM
i care most about the opinions of well named when it comes to politics 7. just an fyi for anyone interested.
08-14-2017 , 07:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
LOL.
I don't see why that's "LOL", it's the impression I've got as well. I'd like to know the justification for modding him if it wasn't just to troll fly & co.
08-14-2017 , 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i care most about the opinions of well named when it comes to politics 7. just an fyi for anyone interested.
Whatever man, we've all seen this game before.

Mat: Someone point me to those posts I'm really lazy

Bunch of people: Here, here, here (oh by the way you were participating in this one), here, here and here.

Mat: Oh whatever I don't care man that's on the mods. Politics brings me down. Anyone, even one of you loser leftists like noodle want to come have a beer at my house? Let me know I'm serious and really cool.

[Embed some random ****ty folk song YouTube to demonstrate coolness]

Mat: And I just can't figure out what is true or false anymore. So much disinformation out there it's hard to say who is right or wrong. Anyone got links?

Bunch of people post links demonstrating X Y Z are bigots, racists, and Nazis.

Mat: Who has time for this ****? I'm grabbing a beer and hitting the pool.

Rinse and repeat.
08-14-2017 , 07:54 AM
are you saying that i don't care most about the opinions of well named in regard to that forum?

the lazy part is true. and as far as modding anyone on the whole site, that's also pretty true. people volunteer or they are recruited by other moderators and it's welcome aboard.

it's just that the other forums aren't filled with the same kind of controversy.

below is the post that got chez modded. didn't really think he would say yes, and didn't think he would really want to stick around after he accepted.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=336

Last edited by Mat Sklansky; 08-14-2017 at 07:59 AM. Reason: the other stuff is also true. i eventually tune it all out and drink beer by the pool.
08-14-2017 , 08:07 AM
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[/Mat: And I just can't figure out what is true or false anymore. So much disinformation out there it's hard to say who is right or wrong. Anyone got links?

Bunch of people post links demonstrating X Y Z are bigots, racists, and Nazis.QUOTE]
i want to address this, because i think you are referring to me asking for more information about certain topics.

when asking for links to articles about specific topics, that's for my own information and i always appreciate them. my view of the world has been expanded as a result. that doesn't have anything to do with any decisions i make about the moderation of the politics forums.
08-14-2017 , 08:16 AM
Has it ever occurred to you that tuning it all out, both here and at the macro-social level, becomes a bit of a problem when the bigots and Nazis figure out how easy it is to exploit your ignorance and spread their hate? Have you been following the news at all lately? Anything ever pop up to make you think, "Gee, this is actually kinda serious. Maybe I should pay closer attention"?

      
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