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Originally Posted by gregorio
I'm responding here and not in NVG in order to not keep derailing that thread, but I'm wondering which mods you're talking about and which specific posts you're taking exception to. I haven't come across mods who are saying anything questionable concerning cheating or unethical behaviour, but perhaps I've missed some posts.
i don't really have time atm to go through it, but i suggest you go look into the thread about the time i started posting in it as hotwarmcold if your really curious to know. and honestly you have been posting in the nvg yourself & have been called out a few times. i have been called out for being annoying, so i can relate a bit.
the other issue that has upset posters in the past & makes them question their views on cheating & what is ethical behavior is how previous scandals, important scandals about cheating & stealing money (stoxtrade,fiji,prahlad/ike haxton stuff--for example) were initially suppressed by mods who deleted posts or threads. or buried the threads into other threads & not to mention their actual posts.
i started a thread to pull out Noel Hayes from the stinger88 thread, a 3,000+ post thread because it seems mr hayes is presently engaged as the sportsbook director of an online gaming company & was previously employed by paddypowerpoker. can any of us explain away how someone employed in the gaming industry for some time (and a poker player) could not have known what he is was doing by sharing or selling his account? of course not. but he was buried in the Stinger88 thread & getting a free pass. that thread was folded back into the original thread & basically buried from view. now i really appreciate the mod who did that owned up to this mistake & owned up to the mistake of burying the "Should ike haxton remain a mod on 2+2...--this thread) in the nvg moderation discussion thread (also burying it). but the point is these types of threads which expose or highlight serious issues should not be insta-moved/deleted/edited etc...etc...
(before i continue, i asked a diff mod where to post the ike thread, i was told in atf, but instead i posted it in nvg to see if there was a consensus that it should be brought for discussion in atf--my mistake. and the mod who told me to post it here was not the one who deleted it, btw)
i want to propose a solution to some of this stuff and if you feel the solution is worth considering, please send it to mat sklansky.
new threads or important posts about cheating or stealing money or the potential of either, should not be moderated by just any mod in the particular forum. this is obviously going to be mostly a nvg issue, but threads have popped in msnl, hsnl, hsplo before too. rather, mods should alert one of 2-3 mods to consider them seriously & then make their judgement. and those mods, imo, need to be informed about the state of today's games & quite frankly, it wouldn' hurt if one of them had a little bit more life experience. so yeah, someone a little older who has weighed issues of ethics for longer than a younger moderator. (just my opinion) i also think one of them needs to be a staff moderator.
why is this important? because people with information that can help the poker community have in the past given up because their posts or threads were edited or deleted.