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10-24-2014 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerthief
I don't like the idea of silencing fringe ideas. I think it's better to have the discussion and let people battle it out. Truth will rise to the top eventually IMO.
I like letting people battle it out, but I don't believe the truth will rise to the top eventually.
10-24-2014 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
I like letting people battle it out, but I don't believe the truth will rise to the top eventually.
Haven't societies that allow the free exchange of ideas out-competed societies that censor speech?
10-24-2014 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerthief
Haven't societies that allow the free exchange of ideas out-competed societies that censor speech?
The truth may have a better chance of rising to the top in a free environment, but I don't think it is guaranteed to do so.
10-24-2014 , 02:51 PM
It has absolutely nothing to do with silencing a "fringe idea," and everything to do with him being unable to resist posting about hijacking every thread he reads to make into about Peak Oil, even if that thread has absolutely nothing to do with Peak Oil, because in his mind every single thing in the world has to do with Peak Oil. He could work Peak Oil into a Pot-Limit Omaha forum. Did you know a recent auction of mineral rights shows interest on the rise in Nebraska for oil drilling, even though actual drilling and production remain flat?
10-24-2014 , 03:24 PM
I use Peak antifreeze, but use WalMart oil. Should I switch to Peak oil, or WalMart antifreeze?
10-25-2014 , 03:24 AM
Everyone that voluntarily posts in any politics forum should be quarantined in those forums and not allowed to post anywhere else.
10-25-2014 , 10:54 AM
Does this also mean we are now post peak Jiggs?

Will we one day look back at the glory boom days of cheap and plentiful **** posting from our isolated, repetitive and expensive mainstream content?

I for one am deeply concerned.
10-27-2014 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
Bump. Is Jiggs a mod yet or what.
I need closure.
10-27-2014 , 11:08 AM
Maybe if he accepts Peak Earl as an undertitle?
10-28-2014 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Wow, I hardly even know what to say to this. Truly amazing.

Are you really so wrapped up in this "peak oil" business that you believe what you just said, or just so worried that having to concede one example of a derail will hurt your "case" too much?

I've never read any of your peak oil posts before this thread, but let me give you a tip - just because you can find a tie between a topic and the subject of a thread doesn't mean you need to post about the topic anywhere you can find such a tie.

There are times when something a little off-topic but not completely irrelevant will be welcomed, and times it will not. It seems like you have a hard time picking those spots. Also, once someone's got a reputation for ranting about a particular topic, it becomes near-impossible for them to post about that in other threads without it becoming a derail.


Pretty much this IMO.
Like I said: In the 25% or so of threads where it's absolutely relevant, I bring it up. It's not remotely close to 100% of threads I contribute in, so stop being over-dramatic and wholly dishonest.

Mexico's slow descent into chaos is a result of being past peak production. Sorry, not sorry. Because, it's well documented.

Spoiler:
If you have an alternative explanation for what - besides being long past peak production - is leading to the sharp decline in quality of life in Mexico, the participants in that thread would love to hear it. If you admit it's the main factor, but prefer to stick your head in the sand in a discussion about a clear symptom, well, that shows a striking propensity to steer conversation away from a diagnosis.


http://www.peakoil.net/files/Cantare...%20Problem.pdf
10-28-2014 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
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10-28-2014 , 12:35 PM
Even if it's tangentially relevant, you realize no one wants to read that crap in every thread? If you want to post in Politics Alta again you are doing a piss poor job presenting your case. Just agree to keep peak oil in the peak oil thread, how hard can it be?
10-28-2014 , 12:51 PM
Whoa, ban 74o for that Politics Alta bull****.
10-28-2014 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 74Offsuit
Even if it's tangentially relevant, you realize no one wants to read that crap in every thread?
Nevermind that it's NOT in every thread. But do keep maintaining the myth. And, by all means, keep burying your head in the sand.

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Originally Posted by 74Offsuit
If you want to post in Politics Alta again you are doing a piss poor job presenting your case.
The 3:1 ratio of support in this thread suggests otherwise.

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Originally Posted by 74Offsuit
Just agree to keep peak oil in the peak oil thread, how hard can it be?
You mean like staying in the back of the bus? LOL...
10-28-2014 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
In my vast experience the past 20 years or so, you can very easily spot the fake liberal by his 1) routine boner for traditional economic theory, 2) his tacit rejection of the earth's physical limitations, and 3) his willingness to "compromise" with the other side of the aisle...

The latter trait is especially disgusting, considering cons are promoting ecocide on a daily basis and unanimously voting against equal pay for women, among countless other crimes against humanity.

This is an ideological war, and I'm not sure most "liberals" are willing to admit that. Cons, to a man, are.


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10-28-2014 , 04:04 PM
This thread is going to be closed soon so I'm going to post this.

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One of the world's leading investment banks says the benchmark price of North American oil is going to fall even further, to $70 US a barrel by next spring.

Investment bank Goldman Sachs slashed its forecast late Sunday night for both West Texas Intermediate (known as WTI) and Brent crude — the two most common types of oil used and sold in North America and Europe.

Goldman Sachs says WTI will go for $75 a barrel in the first three months of 2015. Brent, meanwhile, will change hands at $85 a barrel. Both forecasts are down $15 from what the bank was last expecting. And both are forecast to slip even lower in the second quarter — historically a seasonally low time for oil prices — before rebounding a little in the summer of 2015.

How $85 oil is costing Canadian governments billions
Loonie oil prices could fall much further: Don Pittis

If the prediction on WTI proves correct, it will be the lowest price for North American oil since 2010, when crude was on its way higher after cratering during the recession of 2008 and 2009.

Currently, WTI is trading just below $80 US. That's down from more than $100 a barrel as recently as four months ago.
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Oil prices have fallen by as much as 25 per cent in recent months, but they could fall further, Goldman Sachs says.

The main reason the bank cited for its call is simple supply and demand — there's just more oil being produced now than the world needs, the bank says.
10-28-2014 , 04:13 PM
Omar I read an article that the author felt the days of oil were numbered. That we will have too many sources of cheep energy, and we just won't need it anymore.
10-28-2014 , 04:23 PM
I'm pretty sure you can work "peak oil" into threads outside of P/PU, like this one or this one.
10-28-2014 , 07:26 PM
Jiggs only cites peak oil when its relevant. Like when it caused the government to LIHOP on 9/11. Or caused the financial crisis. Or caused Mexico to collapse despite no evidence of collapse. Or caused Detroit to collapse despite the fact that trainwreck was set in motion decades ago. Or caused unrest in Egypt. Or when a fire starts in lower Manhattan.
10-28-2014 , 07:43 PM
Last night I made my weekly trip south across the border to fill up - paid $2.99 a gallon in expensive NW US. When we drove to Florida and back 2 years ago, I don't think we got below $3/gallon even when we got down into TX, LA, etc.

LOL peak oil.

Spoiler:
Current gas prices actually prove NOTHING about the subject, but I wanted to get in on the LOL peak oil fun.
10-28-2014 , 07:49 PM
PEAK OIL!!!!
10-28-2014 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Like I said: In the 25% or so of threads where it's absolutely relevant, I bring it up. It's not remotely close to 100% of threads I contribute in, so stop being over-dramatic and wholly dishonest.
Did you actually take my "tip" as me suggesting exactly how often you do or don't bring up peak oil? Did I actually need to say something like:

"but let me give you a tip - just because you can find a tie between a topic and the subject of a thread doesn't mean you need to post about the topic in 23.764% of threads where you can find such a tie."

I thought my point was pretty obvious, and there was nothing "wholly dishonest" about it. Like I said, I had never read a peak oil post from you before reading this thread - I have no idea how often you do it. But the fact that you defended that thread derail and still won't back down from that position is pretty telling.

BTW, I love that you managed to get in a link (that I didn't read) to some article about peak oil in your reply to me. Miss the point much?
10-30-2014 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Mexico's slow descent into chaos is a result of the War on Drugs.
FYP
10-30-2014 , 12:11 PM
Maybe we could have a Peak Oil Playground forum.
11-05-2014 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
This thread is going to be closed soon so I'm going to post this.
again, short term supply sprint says absolutely nothing about the capacity to finish the marathon... the price has dipped many times since the financial crash of 2008, and always goes right back up. ...

Conditions this month have nothing to do with short-mid-term production promise. Nothing. You will learn this when the U.S. shale bubble bursts in the next 2-3 years.

it is telling that none of you arguing the echo chamber position here have the temerity to bring it to the unchained thread ... including the troll who called me out in the econ forum, but has yet to show up.

      
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