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10-21-2014 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
What happens if you move all the peak oil talk here to a separate thread in Politics but don't unban Jiggs?
LOL... You'll have a nice echo chamber, just like at Fox News.

Meanwhile, just like gravity, the condition exists whether growth junkies acknowledge it or not.
10-21-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Yeah... See, the full year of 2002 kinda counts. How do you not understand this yet?
2002 to 2013 is an 11 year difference, even if looking at average yearly figures. You wouldn't call 2002 to 2003 a 2 year difference.
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
OK, 430% ... Do you have a point? It's WAY up.
330%. It's 430% of the old value, so a 330% increase.

I don't care about the politarding but the bad maths was doing my head in.
10-21-2014 , 12:05 PM
I didn't say "12 year difference." I said "over the past 12 years."

That includes the past 12 FULL years of average oil price.
10-21-2014 , 12:11 PM
Most people interpret 'over 12 years' as being an increase from the start of a 12 year period to the end of it, as the implication is that the increase has taken 12 years. So it would be correct usage for a 1 Jan 2002 - 31 Dec 2013 increase but not for an average 2002 to average 2013 increase, which is what you presented.

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10-21-2014 , 12:51 PM
come visit, Row Coach...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21.../#post44998906
10-21-2014 , 02:51 PM
While your freeing op , why not open the floodgates? Free Hankwhite69!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10-21-2014 , 03:42 PM
Free RedManPlus imo.
10-21-2014 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 74Offsuit
Free RedManPlus imo.
Peak ellipses tho.
10-21-2014 , 09:54 PM
I think this thread serves well as the Jiggs Peak Oil containment thread.
10-21-2014 , 10:48 PM
Just wait until every ATF thread turns into a peak oil thread.
10-22-2014 , 10:09 AM
Bump. Is Jiggs a mod yet or what.
10-22-2014 , 09:23 PM
Have often wondered, does two threehundredandtwentyfifths of a falcon represent the beak, the dong, one feather, or what?
10-22-2014 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Peak..... ellipses...........

tho.....
Fyp...
10-22-2014 , 09:56 PM
G,

Talon of justice, obv.
10-22-2014 , 11:23 PM
10-23-2014 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
I'll toss this out there to your critics as a challenge: find the post where you think JiggsCasey's insertion of peak oil into the debate was the farthest from the subject matter being discussed.
Does Unchained count? Here's a thread from 4 months ago about the unaccompanied minors immigrating from Central America. Jiggs jumps in with the following:
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
meanwhile, Mexico is rapidly dying as its petrol production continues its terminal decline ... with that, there is no funding left to thwart its descent into full-fledged narco state.
This instigated a 65-post derail that I regrettably participated in. Again, that thread had nothing to do with energy, oil, OR ****ING MEXICO. As far as I can tell, Jiggs continues to think Peak Oil is the driving force behind the spike in Central American immigrant children that happened over the summer.
10-23-2014 , 08:53 AM
When speculating about a country's systemic failure and what to do about the fallout, it's often important to acknowledge (not deny) what has caused that failure. Sorry if that reality sprained your eyes, but it was quite relevant, and supported.

Maybe you can create a data chart about it.
10-23-2014 , 09:20 AM
JIGSSSSSS
10-23-2014 , 10:17 AM
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10-23-2014 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
Does Unchained count? Here's a thread from 4 months ago about the unaccompanied minors immigrating from Central America. Jiggs jumps in with the following:

JIGGS: "meanwhile, Mexico is rapidly dying as its petrol production continues its terminal decline..."

This instigated a 65-post derail that I regrettably participated in. Again, that thread had nothing to do with energy, oil, OR ****ING MEXICO. As far as I can tell, Jiggs continues to think Peak Oil is the driving force behind the spike in Central American immigrant children that happened over the summer.
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
When speculating about a country's systemic failure and what to do about the fallout, it's often important to acknowledge (not deny) what has caused that failure. Sorry if that reality sprained your eyes, but it was quite relevant, and supported.

Maybe you can create a data chart about it.
Game, set, match for why Jiggs should remain chained.
10-23-2014 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
When speculating about a country's systemic failure and what to do about the fallout, it's often important to acknowledge (not deny) what has caused that failure. Sorry if that reality sprained your eyes, but it was quite relevant, and supported.
Wow, I hardly even know what to say to this. Truly amazing.

Are you really so wrapped up in this "peak oil" business that you believe what you just said, or just so worried that having to concede one example of a derail will hurt your "case" too much?

I've never read any of your peak oil posts before this thread, but let me give you a tip - just because you can find a tie between a topic and the subject of a thread doesn't mean you need to post about the topic anywhere you can find such a tie.

There are times when something a little off-topic but not completely irrelevant will be welcomed, and times it will not. It seems like you have a hard time picking those spots. Also, once someone's got a reputation for ranting about a particular topic, it becomes near-impossible for them to post about that in other threads without it becoming a derail.

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Originally Posted by ctyri
Game, set, match for why Jiggs should remain chained.
Pretty much this IMO.
10-23-2014 , 06:09 PM
You have to hand it to OP, he did make it a whole four days between starting this thread and starting yet another peak oil thread in unchained.

That kind of self-restraint only comes from years of being banned.

Let's try it with Ikes next imo
10-23-2014 , 08:06 PM
I didn't realize it was possible to single-mindedly care so much about something so ****ing boring and esoteric.
10-24-2014 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Alrighty Roo
I didn't realize it was possible to single-mindedly care so much about something so ****ing boring and esoteric.
But you hang out with werewolf players
10-24-2014 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Anais
You have to hand it to OP, he did make it a whole four days between starting this thread and starting yet another peak oil thread in unchained.

That kind of self-restraint only comes from years of being banned.

Let's try it with Ikes next imo
He probably made that thread because someone made a thread in the econ forum (which he can't post in) calling him out since oil prices have fallen. It seems perfectly acceptable to me for him to start that thread to defend himself.

I think he should be allowed to post in politics. Peak oil is something that interests me and I've learned a lot about it because of Jigs. It turns out that I disagree with him and therefore I've learned the most from people arguing with him but still, if it weren't for Jig's passion the debate wouldn't have been so vigorous and I wouldn't have learned as much about the issue.

I don't like the idea of silencing fringe ideas. I think it's better to have the discussion and let people battle it out. Truth will rise to the top eventually IMO.

      
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