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Old 09-15-2009, 09:11 AM   #1
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Private Messages changes - "Why can't I PM?"

CLOSED because this thread doesn't seem to serve any real purpose. It's gotten too long, my OP here isn't as clear as the FAQ entry, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/fa...faq_disabledpm, and there's not a whole lot to discuss anyway.


I've been quietly testing something out the past few months and am just about ready to implement it. Essentially this will be a win for everyone except spammers.

What's going to happen is that newer users will have their PM capabilities significantly reduced to a max of 50-100 (haven't decided just yet) stored messages and will only be able to send to one user at a time. Regular members will get an increase to 1000 stored messages and retain their other limit.

The requirements for reaching the increase will not be listed, but they should be fair to both legitimate new members and current regulars.

Any thoughts on this before I flip the switch? The only thing I'm still struggling a bit with is the best way to inform new members about the limit so people will understand that's not how things will always be for them.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/fa...faq_disabledpm

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Old 09-15-2009, 09:28 AM   #2
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Re: PM changes

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Regular members will get an increase to 1000 stored messages and retain their other limit.
What's the other limit?


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Any thoughts on this before I flip the switch?
Sounds like a good change to me. Anything to help curb spammers.


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The only thing I'm still struggling a bit with is the best way to inform new members about the limit so people will understand that's not how things will always be for them.
Maybe a sticky or board announcement or something?
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:29 AM   #3
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What's the other limit?
Number of users you can send a message to.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:29 AM   #4
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Re: PM changes

Ahh. Gotcha.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:32 AM   #5
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Re: PM changes

One of your infamous notices that says something like "NOTICE: To help combat abuse of our private message system, newly registered accounts will have only limited access to the private message system" imo.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 AM   #6
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I thought about that, and it would work. I just think it might be too annoying having to see that every time you sign in. What I may end up doing is including a note about that in a welcome PM.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 AM   #7
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You'll be like Tom from myspace!
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:39 AM   #8
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Re: PM changes

Do we think that many people would notice the change? Let the mods know so they can field questions from users. Can you make the change onesy twoesy or is it associated with undertitles or something?
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:44 AM   #9
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Re: PM changes

I just don't want people to get the idea we only allow 50 PM storage if they do happen to notice. You may be right that many won't anyway.

Not associated with titles. The requirement will be a mix of a few different things.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:46 AM   #10
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Whoda thunk that seeing a notice over and over could be annoying?
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:00 AM   #11
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I think Ryan thinks he's funny.

Last edited by Mayo; 09-15-2009 at 10:04 AM. Reason: But he is wrong.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:10 AM   #12
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help me Ryan Beal



you're my only hope.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:15 AM   #13
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Was the 500th PM from me?
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:25 AM   #14
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Re: PM changes

confirmed.

I can't insert my witty response
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:20 AM   #15
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ryan has PMS
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:44 AM   #16
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What I may end up doing is including a note about that in a welcome PM.
Ding ding ding ding!

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Archive FTW.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:46 AM   #17
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I don't wanna
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:59 AM   #18
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Re: PM changes

the main issue that comes to mind would be for newish members who already have more than 50 PMs and suddenly one day they are way over capacity without warning - or would this change only affect accounts registered after the new policy goes into effect?

Also, please make it so that members of the POG Game Mods usergroup still have normal PM abilities regardless of their reg date/post count. It's not uncommon for people to make a gimmick account primarily for the purpose of handling a large quantity of game-related PMs without having to delete hundreds of messages on their primary account.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:02 PM   #19
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the main issue that comes to mind would be for newish members who already have more than 50 PMs and suddenly one day they are way over capacity without warning - or would this change only affect accounts registered after the new policy goes into effect?
No it will affect everyone. There's really no good way around that, though, so an announcement or this thread will have to do. There's also already visual notifications of a full inbox in a couple places.

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Also, please make it so that members of the POG Game Mods usergroup still have normal PM abilities regardless of their reg date/post count. It's not uncommon for people to make a gimmick account primarily for the purpose of handling a large quantity of game-related PMs without having to delete hundreds of messages on their primary account.
Hmm. I believe they have their own group PM settings anyway. But other than the game mods, I'm not concerned about POG regulars somehow not meeting the requirements. That's unlikely.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:03 PM   #20
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Re: PM changes

Bobo, quit archiving, your PMs are not that important.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:07 PM   #21
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False.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:17 PM   #22
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Really?

Last edited by gregorio; 09-15-2009 at 12:25 PM. Reason: well, at least I was right that Bobo's PMs are not important enought to archieve. Mayo's are, though.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:24 PM   #23
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I archived my PMs, cleared my inbox, and then deleted them. I have done this now ~5 times. Then I poured Mountain Dew on my PC and lost those archives. I would like them back now, please.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:37 PM   #24
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Whoda thunk that seeing a notice over and over could be annoying?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:50 PM   #25
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please do this soon, im at 99% capacity and hate deleting anything. the first couple times i emptied the box made me sad.
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