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06-11-2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
I believe the answer is server load. In order to give everyone a fair load time, there has to be a limit.
I like the scrolling & loading idea. No clue if this version of VB supports it but I understand there are browser plug-ins that do.
Last edited by Professionalpoker; 06-11-2012 at 03:52 PM.
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06-11-2012, 04:49 PM
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#47
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2+2 Ad Man
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
I somehow knew this would come. But it's only one thread, specked with gifs. I'm ready to pay the price of a little slower loading when getting the benefits of 100 in the majority of threads.
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Which is why you like 100. Others prefer a few extra "next page" clicks to avoid waiting twice as long for those slow-loading pages. Admittedly the problem isn't as great as it used to be, when 2+2 went through a period of slow load times.
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
How about satisfying our needs? Why not give an option to get more posts at one time? Only 100 is in fact ridiculous when there are threads with thousands of posts. Really nice trying to scroll them with the 100 at a time. Here's my new signature:
- 200, 500, 1000, continous
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As PP alluded to, server load AFAIK. Think about those long threads you read regularly with a 1000 PPP setting. If there have been 800 posts, every time you go to read 1 or 2 new posts, you're asking the server for 800. Do you find it's that common that you read 1000 posts in a thread at one sitting?
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06-12-2012, 12:39 AM
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#48
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Accepting mocking
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
As PP alluded to, server load AFAIK. Think about those long threads you read regularly with a 1000 PPP setting. If there have been 800 posts, every time you go to read 1 or 2 new posts, you're asking the server for 800. Do you find it's that common that you read 1000 posts in a thread at one sitting?
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I like to scan through, read here and there, jump back and forth, get a picture. One clear example: reading the first posts in a thread, then scroll to the middle to have a look, then to the last posts.
To be able to look at the first OP post and then go to the last post within a blink of an eye we all can agree is good, I think? The OP at least tries to set the theme and tone of the thread and the last posts are the most relevant for the current discussion.
Last edited by plaaynde; 06-12-2012 at 12:51 AM.
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06-12-2012, 02:07 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
Another point against a large PPP is if you click off of a page before finishing it. The software will assume you read every remaining post on that page. Depending on how brief your periods of reading are, 100 PPP can become annoying.
I often have to do that, since most of my browsing occurs at work, so 100 PPP isn't for me. And 15 is too few, I'd have to click next page too often. That's why I chose 50. As Goldilocks might say, "this PPP setting is just right."
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06-12-2012, 02:49 PM
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#50
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stern talker
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Re: Posts Per Page
botp
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06-12-2012, 02:50 PM
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stern talker
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Re: Posts Per Page
totp
Last edited by gambit8888; 06-12-2012 at 02:52 PM.
Reason: for clarity
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06-12-2012, 03:08 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
Yes, but why can't you give us, who like to have more than 100 posts, that?
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06-12-2012, 03:25 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Another point against a large PPP is if you click off of a page before finishing it...
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+1
I also wonder how many people there are that don't realize this...
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...The software will assume you read every remaining post on that page...
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06-12-2012, 06:09 PM
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2+2 Ad Man
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Yes, but why can't you give us, who like to have more than 100 posts, that?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
I believe the answer is server load. In order to give everyone a fair load time, there has to be a limit.
I like the scrolling & loading idea. No clue if this version of VB supports it but I understand there are browser plug-ins that do.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
As PP alluded to, server load AFAIK. Think about those long threads you read regularly with a 1000 PPP setting. If there have been 800 posts, every time you go to read 1 or 2 new posts, you're asking the server for 800. Do you find it's that common that you read 1000 posts in a thread at one sitting?
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06-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
Still in on first page
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06-12-2012, 11:31 PM
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
I like the scrolling & loading idea. No clue if this version of VB supports it but I understand there are browser plug-ins that do.
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Is it technically possible to have VB and 2+2 to do what those browser plug-ins do?
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06-13-2012, 12:07 AM
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Re: Posts Per Page
I did some research: https://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features
Is the more advanced vBulletin 4.0 Publishing Suite used? There is a mention about complete customization, including plug-ins. The Suite costs $90 more, which should be manageable for a company the size of 2+2  . Of course there would be some costs doing the customization too, don't know how much, difficult to imagine large sums.
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06-13-2012, 12:14 AM
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Re: Posts Per Page
100
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06-13-2012, 12:33 AM
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2+2 Ad Man
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
I did some research: https://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=features
Is the more advanced vBulletin 4.0 Publishing Suite used? There is a mention about complete customization, including plug-ins. The Suite costs $90 more, which should be manageable for a company the size of 2+2  . Of course there would be some costs doing the customization too, don't know how much, difficult to imagine large sums.
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There may be a variety of other problems with this suggestion, but the one that comes to mind immediately is that we're not using version 4.0 of vBulletin.
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06-13-2012, 08:49 AM
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Re: Posts Per Page
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Is it technically possible to have VB and 2+2 to do what those browser plug-ins do?
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What browser do you use?
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