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02-24-2017 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Actually no. It usually has the opposite effect if the mod is doing a poor job.
So you weren't around for any of unchained's mod changes, I see.
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02-24-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
No, I'm not.
Seriously the thing that makes it most abundantly clear who exactly chez is and what he believes is this **** where he constantly tells people they are "being silly" about really ****ing serious stuff.

chez, MULTIPLE PEOPLE keep saying this awful, truly awful **** about you. That'd provoke SO MUCH INTROSPECTION from the person you claim you are. But from the person I believe you are, it'd provoke light-hearted trolling. And we see which one you pick.
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02-24-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Seriously the thing that makes it most abundantly clear who exactly chez is and what he believes is this **** where he constantly tells people they are "being silly" about really ****ing serious stuff.

chez, MULTIPLE PEOPLE keep saying this awful, truly awful **** about you. That'd provoke SO MUCH INTROSPECTION from the person you claim you are. But from the person I believe you are, it'd provoke light-hearted trolling. And we see which one you pick.
I'm still confused, but intrigued, by your goals in going after the alternative politics forum.

Let's say you succeed. That forum is closed. What is next? You go after the pog politics thread? I'm seriously curious.

I would have thought, based on your posting style, that the original unchained would have been a place you fought for as you could have taken head on all the people you don't like.
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02-24-2017 , 05:09 PM
If the lolPolitics forum lynch mob ever came after me I would certainly take it as something to be amused about.
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02-24-2017 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
I'm still confused, but intrigued, by your goals in going after the alternative politics forum.

Let's say you succeed. That forum is closed. What is next? You go after the pog politics thread? I'm seriously curious.

I would have thought, based on your posting style, that the original unchained would have been a place you fought for as you could have taken head on all the people you don't like.
I didn't have a problem with the original unchained, but chezlaw punishes people who insult bigots and also consistently will engage in this nonsensical gaslighting program where there are no bigots and everything is just super let's all chat about how the Holocaust was a hoax but Muslims are ruining Europe with no-go zones and police brutality is good.
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02-24-2017 , 05:46 PM
That totally untrue Fly. So blatantly untrue that anyone who visits Pv7.0 knows it. Including Mat.
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02-24-2017 , 05:57 PM
this is kind of funny. chezlaw really is the one who finally killed unchained. fly just said he was okay with unchained.

we won't be going backwards for a long time, if ever, but it gives me something to think about.
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02-24-2017 , 06:05 PM
It is a bizarre world.
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02-24-2017 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
That totally untrue Fly. So blatantly untrue that anyone who visits Pv7.0 knows it. Including Mat.
Actually, pretty much all of the Chezzfront regs seem to think you're a dishonest, inconsistent mod.
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02-24-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
this is kind of funny. chezlaw really is the one who finally killed unchained. fly just said he was okay with unchained.

we won't be going backwards for a long time, if ever, but it gives me something to think about.
My understanding is that the problem people had with unchained wasn't people calling each other idiots, that was the attraction, it was the idea that there could be a forum with absolutely no rules on content. When you demodded me and stopped dealing with hate speech you ended up with a forum full of hate speech and that upset a lot of posters.
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02-24-2017 , 06:51 PM
When I asked my wife, just now, if i was homosexual all of a sudden after thirteen years , hypothetically, but would stay with her if she was willing to use a donald trump mask and use some kind of prosthetic male penetration device, she refused.

is this a good example of microaggresion?
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02-24-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
My understanding is that the problem people had with unchained wasn't people calling each other idiots, that was the attraction, it was the idea that there could be a forum with absolutely no rules on content. When you demodded me and stopped dealing with hate speech you ended up with a forum full of hate speech and that upset a lot of posters.
no ill feelings or offense meant, but we didn't agree on the point of that forum.

i wanted a virtually un-moderated space, and you moderated the **** out of it. i chalk that up to miscommunication. now that unchained is dead and buried, chez and whosnext might actually welcome your help. that would be between you and them.
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02-24-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
no ill feelings or offense meant, but we didn't agree on the point of that forum.

i wanted a virtually un-moderated space, and you moderated the **** out of it. i chalk that up to miscommunication. now that unchained is dead and buried, chez and whosnext might actually welcome your help. that would be between you and them.
No, I moderated the **** out of a handful of awful posters that were making the forum unreadable, but I agree we weren't on the same page on it and it doesn't matter now. Chez hasn't been interested in my help with modding to this point and I have no desire to put up with his condescension any more than I have to.

I'm too invested in 2+2 to be as out of sync with you about appropriate content for the site and will probably try and limit my involvement for a while.
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02-24-2017 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i wanted a virtually un-moderated space, and you moderated the **** out of it.
So you (or somebody else) appointed a moderator to do the job of not moderating?

Because if you actually want an un-moderated space here, the obvious solution seems to be to just make a forum with no moderators.
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02-24-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
So you (or somebody else) appointed a moderator to do the job of not moderating?

Because if you actually want an un-moderated space here, the obvious solution seems to be to just make a forum with no moderators.
close. i was willing to look at post reports. but then other users thought i was letting too much go, so i thought a different moderator might act on more post reports than i did.

when i modded kerowo, it's clear i didn't make my views clear enough and he decided to read every post and make judgments. that's a valid way to run a forum. just not what i had in mind at that time.

zero moderation isn't an option because then we get people spamming caulking guns and whatnot.
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02-24-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
No, I moderated the **** out of a handful of awful posters that were making the forum unreadable, but I agree we weren't on the same page on it and it doesn't matter now. Chez hasn't been interested in my help with modding to this point and I have no desire to put up with his condescension any more than I have to.

I'm too invested in 2+2 to be as out of sync with you about appropriate content for the site and will probably try and limit my involvement for a while.
i don't know if i understand what you just said.

but i think you might be suggesting that people who post about politics on this site, exclusively, are worthy of much consideration. i go back and forth on that myself, but i'm pretty sure that's a waste of my time.
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02-24-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
When I asked my wife, just now, if i was homosexual all of a sudden after thirteen years , hypothetically, but would stay with her if she was willing to use a donald trump mask and use some kind of prosthetic male penetration device, she refused.

is this a good example of microaggresion?
It kind of is, because it stereotypes homosexuality to be about the male organ only, often combined with the butt sex, forgetting true love. The Trump mask lightens it up a bit, have to admit that. He is ****ing all the American people.
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02-24-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
When I asked my wife, just now, if i was homosexual all of a sudden after thirteen years , hypothetically, but would stay with her if she was willing to use a donald trump mask and use some kind of prosthetic male penetration device, she refused.

is this a good example of microaggresion?
Just to clarify, did she refuse to stay with you or just refuse to wear the Trump mask?
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02-24-2017 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
It kind of is, because it steretypes homosexuality to be about the male organ only, often combined with the butt sex, forgetting true love. The Trump mask lightens it up a bit, have to admit that. He is ****ing all the American people.
no discrimination whatsoever? all of us equally
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02-24-2017 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Just to clarify, did she refuse to stay with you or just refuse to wear the Trump mask?
that was a good question. she just confirmed it was only the trump mask that is a no go. typical ****.
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02-24-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
zero moderation isn't an option because then we get people spamming caulking guns and whatnot.
So? If you really want to run an unmoderated forum, why not let the people selling caulking gun have as much of a say as the racist idiots?
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02-24-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
No, I moderated the **** out of a handful of awful posters that were making the forum unreadable, but I agree we weren't on the same page on it and it doesn't matter now. Chez hasn't been interested in my help with modding to this point and I have no desire to put up with his condescension any more than I have to.

I'm too invested in 2+2 to be as out of sync with you about appropriate content for the site and will probably try and limit my involvement for a while.
I appreciated a lot of your post reports and I was listening to you particularly regarding deleting posts. That's despite a great deal of 'payback' you were enjoying - fair enough many might say but I don't get angry and you don't get my humour so condescending towards you is probably how I came across in response.
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02-24-2017 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i don't know if i understand what you just said.

but i think you might be suggesting that people who post about politics on this site, exclusively, are worthy of much consideration. i go back and forth on that myself, but i'm pretty sure that's a waste of my time.
No, I mean it's too frustrating caring more about what posts are getting left on the site than you do.
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02-24-2017 , 11:25 PM
Since the new mod is explicitly avoiding answering this question, and so far Chex and Mat have too, perhaps anyone can have a stab at it:

Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never once visited and know nothing about?
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02-24-2017 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
No, I mean it's too frustrating caring more about what posts are getting left on the site than you do.

you need to come out to vegas and drink with me. tab's on me.
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