there's a world of dif between ppl such as inso, adios, avwal, domer etc putting forward noxious (imo) pro-drumpf lines of argument as they do in regular politiards, and one of your p7 boys posting 'that jew is funding actors to pose as nazis at these rallys in order to incite violence'

Hey Johny you got any more homophobic prison rape jokes you want to share?

wtf this is how bad parents describe their kids.

It's like, hello. You're in charge.

This is what I meant by meat on the bone.

Something lower brow than alpha and a spot to be something of a battleground. Not fighting off literally-no-content trolls like Sushy and whatever wil is.

wil seems like the politics version of TBAB. Fine to maybe tolerate in an isolated sense, but the hell with multiples that bring less to the table anecdotally.

That post was modded and is not the norm. Maybe it should have deleted and maybe more action should have been taken against the poster but it wasn't ok or the norm.

But I'm not denying you have a good point. I dont know what else to say until Well Named returns.

So you're neutered below deputy status or something?

Instead of assistant moderator you're assistant to the moderator?

There's a compromise between the mods. I think Well Named is more of the view Bobo expressed. I'm of the view we should be much stricter but I also wanted Well Named to be a mod.


There's 3 mods. We tackle things slightly differently and don't always wait to discuss it first. Is it different in any forum with multiple mods? But even when I'm making a decision alone it's not like there's some certain correct decision every time - i have to make a judgement and some of them will be more confident than others.

Like BOIDS this is mostly a lie.

Before well named came along and reduced the rules on personal attacks, chez was letting people post about how assassinating pro-Leave MPs was good without even ****ing green texting them but flipping out when people called alt-righters mean names.

You might think I'm joking. I'm not. He eventually was shamed into deleting it(maybe? Some other mod eventually waxed the account for unrelated misconduct), and I don't have screenshots, but a multi-permaed poster was talking **** about Jo Cox and chez ****ing protected him. PM Trolly if you think I'm exaggerating.

He also threatened moderation action for people bringing up that one of his alt-right posters was a Sandy Hook Truther, and briefly instituted a "put a pin in it, move on" where confronting people with prior inconsistent statements to show hypocrisy was a personal attack.

But, as a rational person, surely it would be a good idea to look into what's going on in the forum? I don't know what goes into being a mod here, but seems like if a bunch of people are complaining about white supremacy, trolling mods, and Nazi propaganda being posted on your website it's maybe worth checking it out?

We're almost at that point where Mat throws his hands up in the air in frustration and hits the pool with a six pack. Then we can do this all over again in 3 to 6 months.

I think it's this:

After pedophilia and domestic terrorism I can't wait to see what Mat's trustworthy and hilarious afro-chinese friend has brewing for us.

That's not sarcasm I thought those were the two things we were all on board with as being bad, but once you've "two sides"es Nazis there's really nowhere else to go. His typical posting of bragging about willingness to commit hate crimes and making fun of people for making less money than he does barely raises an eyebrow.

Boids if you're interested in the Jo Cox post Fly is referring to then it was much discussed in another ATF thread. This post from Bobo summarises it a fair bit although there's a lot more in the thread and the original one.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=476

Is that the one you lied about deleting and then went back after being called out to delete it, showing that you didn't understand how timestamps work?

Do you still stalk posters using multiple screen names?

It's the one with

The 'two of you' being referred to was Noodle and Trolly.

Since Mat's aware of the issue, and he's the only one who would be making a decision if anything needs to be done in terms of having the moderators change how they do things, replacing and/or adding moderators, closing the forum, or anything else, I'll leave that for him.

Holy ****, really? This again??

Wow.

Bobo can't really find it in his upbringing to get emotional about white nationalism but by god you call chezlaw a liar just because he said things that aren't true....

Honestly, if you don't want us to report white supremacist literature being posted on 2p2, just let us know. This bizarre performance art thing where you fire shots at the people letting you know there's a problem seems like a waste of everyone's time.

Anyway, I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I think I have all my questions answered. Good talk, Bobo.

Ever heard the phrase, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water"?



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Does anyone remember when BBV4L was almost shut down because advertisers didn't like the picures of scantily clad women? An entire 5 star tunaman thread full of hot Asian women that even Barry Greenstein was posting in was nuked. iirc people were threatened with bans if they continued to post scantily clad women. Women in bathing suits, soooo offensive.


It's pretty clear that the concerns of advertisers matter more than the concerns of posters


Going to have to respectfully disagree.

There was a problem in 4L where RB would allow scantily clad women to be posted, but would delete pictures of men. This was resolved. Aside from this, there were no issues at all with half naked pictures of people, and there were precisely ZERO posters asking for rules to be changed so people would stop posting such pictures. Zero posters. But advertisers had a problem with it, and after an extremely short discussion, what was only a couple days iirc, the rules were instantly changed, and posters were threatened with bans if they posted pictures of women or men in bikinis.

Compare that now with P7. For months, numerous people have been pointing out that the biggest problem with the forum is a very small handful of odious bigots who openly post racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and now even Neo-Nazi sympathetic propaganda, and instead of this small handful of posters being perma banned, they're threatened with maybe a time out so they can go sit in the corner for a couple hours and think about what they did, and then they're right back to spew their garbage all over the forum again.

I guarantee you that if it were advertisers saying they were going to pull their ads from the site instead of community members making a stink, there would be instant change, because there was instant change over the horrendous issue of pictures of women in bikinis. Clearly far worse than sympathizing with Neo-Nazis

I'm open to evidence to the contrary of my assertions above. But in case it's not clear enough: the problem with P7 is a small handful of bigots. The rules are clear, and they break them and sometimes moderator action is taken, sometimes it isn't, but when it is, it's completely feckless and does absolutely nothing to solve the problem, because the next day the same handful of posters are right back at it.

i think someone needs to post that comic about moderates itt

But Bobo's definition of white nationalism might differ from yours. And he's not about to go read the stuff he's commenting about.

Of course you should be reporting what you feel is wrong. That's the purpose of this forum. Admittedly I get a little annoyed when I see people posting things that are easily provable to be incorrect, without even needing any further context, and I've called people out for it.

Yeah, it's turned out to be a bit of a waste of time, because even though I was right, it's a side issue. It might have been helpful in shining some light on how a few people will post whatever they like to try to bolster their argument, true or not, but other than that it's been a distraction. So I'll try now to let this stuff go, even posts like these that are incorrect pretty much from start to finish: