I'm and atheist and don't believe in Satan but you and everyone you know are definitely going to Hell when you die.

So much this that it's not possible to have any more this.

Advanced ProTip: Doing an advanced search with the keyword 'blacks' is optimal for these types of posters.

Nah, we cool imo.

If there are politics forums on this site (I'd rather they go)
1. Just revise rules in P to reflect reality. much what Neil S posted.

2. Conservative and centrist points of view can be argued effectively in P for sure. You have to be willing to devote time to refute all the stuff that's going to come at you both fair, unfair; intellectually honest and dishonest; ad hominems and stuff like that. The post by Chips Ahoy was very accurate. Is it worth spending the time?

Loving the politard bickering, entertaining.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until he starts spouting his views on how women who have an abortion deserve the death penalty. Oh, and everyone else involved in that procedure including the nurses and doctors.

But never the father of the child, oh no.

Oh, and that the death penalty should be widely used and carried out with impunity within a month of conviction, damn the consequences of a wrongful conviction (except when it comes to his friends or family, since he won't answer if he would feel the same if it was one of them wrongly convicted)

I understand The Precious must not be insulted, and that his race serves as a handy card for you to paternalistically play on his behalf, but it really is not a good look.

Obama's an adult; he can take my criticism of his policies and administration without assuming racist intent just because I'm not fawning. I suggest you emulate him at least in that regard.

Outstanding post. Would read again.

Good post, but they don't come at us with anything capable of logical refutation. It's ALL logical fallacies and personal attacks and "lol" and "racist" and the like. It's endemic across the Left.

I do not have a strong feeling about the death penalty one way or the other, but your parenthetical is unsound: personal anecdotes are no basis on which to set a system of laws. There of course will be wrongful convictions. And of course lives will be saved by preventing psychos from killing others. I don't know how these trade against one another, but I think it needs to be acknowledged that they do.

Meanwhile, to see what really happens in the Politics forum, let's look at Zorkman's recent foray into the police shootings thread.

He enters (emphasis mine, will come up later):

The first response questions his facts:

The next poster to engage with him clearly knows a lot more about what happened than Zorkman does, and given that is pretty magnanimous:

This poster also corrects Zorkman on his wildly incorrect knowledge of the facts of the case (going back to the part that I bolded in Zorkman's original post):

Crickets from Zorkman after this.

What actually happened in that thread is, of course, wildly different than what Zorkman claims here. Despite his asinine, fact-free, feelings-based claims, posters engaged him with facts and frankly with a bit more respect than his terrible posting deserved. Yet to hear him recount the tale here, it was...what was it again?

Hahahahahaha, right.


Meanwhile, here's how Zorkman engages his opponents.

Zorkman makes a claim in his OP. When someone questions that claim, since he's a claim he made that he should provide evidence for, he idiotically turns it around and demands the other poster prove he's wrong. Talk about "logical fallacies"!

And there is, of course, the level of respect he shows others in this very thread:



For those reading that don't venture into the Politics forum (and I certainly don't blame you), hopefully this has been illustrative about the level of honesty people like Zorkman employ when describing what happens there.

finally got to watch it. i encourage everyone in this thread to watch this video. and argue about it, of course.

taking political philosophy in college, and thinking about the subject is the spark that people can point to if i ever commit suicide. there is one thing holding this society together, at least US society: dogs. take dogs way from the united states and the story is over.

but that's cool with me while i stay alive, 'cause i love dogs. they are what make my life worth living.

And beer.

Beer and sex and food and movies. All great, but meaningless without dogs. It is true that beer is what makes me want to talk about these things. I won't deny that.

Need another dog? I promise she's not too crazy.

post pictures and info. it's not out of the question, but i have two, so unlikely.

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Vetoed

i might take that dog. bring her on a trip to to vegas and if my dogs like her her she can stay.

i made the same offer about you, but in that case he said vetoed.

I would get along with your dogs just fine. You on the other hand...

You would like my dogs and if you're really needing a home for yours, bring her on a visit. It's not a pipe dream.

kiera just saw the picture and really wants to meet her. now if the veto was about actually giving her up, then count me out of a domestic dispute, but if you both think she needs a different home, come give us an audition.