I wish I could cite a specific rule but when I was temp banned in b&m all I got was a pm saying, "Dial back the ******edness in the DET thread."

so my suggestion would be to simply dial down the badness from your guys' end, while also increasing the goodness.

No.

It was created by Mat Sklansky as an experiment to see if a forum would self destruct if a high level of moderation wasn't maintained. After an initial working out period, it was clear that the discussion and threads wouldn't self destruct. I wasn't involved in the discussions on the rules changes between Latimer, Mat and Rapini so I don't know how it happened. However, around the same time the tone around B&M began to soften. It got to the point that there were virtually no posters who were posting in M&B that weren't also posting in B&M.

There was no real purpose at that point to keep it open, so it was closed.

even though i said yes and venice says no, what venice states is all correct after that.

So why does B&M need extra super serious levels of moderation?

Living in a country where we don't even have B&Ms I very rarely visit the forum and really only am aware of it when it generally, or Rapini specifically, is brought up here in ATM.

From that limited knowledge it seems like Rapini (and probably other B&M mods, though they're not as visible) has/have the unthankful task of moderating a forum which is to be moderated way more harshly than any other 2+2-forum.

So why does it have to be?

I think it's worth mentioning that the word "Rapini" is now regularly used in place of curse words in the live low stakes sub forum. It seems to be used not by just one or two individuals but by a large portion of the regulars in the forum.

Anyways, just thought I would pass that along because I don't think a large number of posters would slander someone's screen name like that without reason.

I thought that thread/sub-forum was pretty much hands off as far as moderation went. You must have really tarded it up something fierce.

I want to see an answer to this question.

I stand corrected.

It is primarily used by some individuals in the LC chat thread, not the majority of posters in the entire forum. There are some that are just copying the "kool" kids and have little direct experience with the forum. Their knowledge is based on what other people have told them.

I do exclude you and ikestoys from that list because there's no question both of you have had your problems with Rapini. I'm not judging who is primarily at fault.

Hah, yeah no ATF threads for me yet. I did have one chronically banned user come back with a LattimerSucksCock or similar name once. I think it was the guy that kept spoiling **** in the GoT thread. Before the post approval scheme happened with that thread I was helping 27off ban users who were spoiling ****, even though it was a no-no in the technical sense since I wasn't a OOTV mod. We worked that out and he was fine with it.

If I had to come up with a number (and this is pulled out of thin air), I would say I do 33%, and this number is probably going to decrease since recently this site has become websensed at work. He usually gets to the post reports before I do. Most of my moderation comes from me reading threads and coming across violations, and I'd say 90% of those violations are privacy or marketplace.

I haven't read that thread in a long time, although when I do it's usually good both from an information perspective and a fun perspective.

If I recall correctly regarding the one time where I tempbanned multiple posters, I was called to the thread by two thread regulars' post reports due to some really offensive (not to me, but that's beside the point) banter between you, Coach McGuirk, Omar Comin, and maybe one or two other thread regulars. I deleted the posts that I thought needed to be deleted and gave everyone 24 hrs off.

No one has reported posts in there since then, so either the tempbans worked to calm you down or the posters who reported the situation originally no longer read the thread.

Seems roughly analogous to the North Korean regime imo. When they take outsider hostages, they have to be negotiated with and catered to.

More of this, please.

If B&M derives revenue from actual poker rooms, it might be theoretically +EV for the site to chase away people who complain too much since businesses have a tendency to try to silence their biggest critics whenever possible.

(This is not intended to suggest that the forum actually does this, just to point out that ikestoys has flawed reasoning.)

I feel that info like this should be added to one of the stickies. When mods feel the need to explain a policy, that usually means that it is an issue that has come up and has a chance of coming up again. Keep the OP in the FAQ/Guidelines short and organized but add any exegesis to the thread without having to tidy it up if you don't want to add it to the main post.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...ity-nj-478319/

post 2332 rapini moderation at its best

fixed your link

I thought he took it easy on the guy, especially with that poster's history...

I don't think moderation means what you think it means.

That's called replying to a post.

True, better to be called stupid then a tard I guess. Not like he resorted to name calling.

B&M isn't OMG3. IDK why people have a problem understanding that.


We all hope for that for everyone, but is that a high content post in a high content forum? I don't have anything against Rapini, and he did delete a post of mine once. No big deal. But I think that a mod of a high content forum should be held to a higher standard. The quote above is not up that standard imo. Any deleted posts that are of a higher quality than what is shown above should be reinstated to their respective threads.

There. Problem solved.

Rapini maybe mentally should delete some of his LC posts, especially the insulting ones, before posting them? There is nobody else there deleting them. Changing them to be non-insulting but with the message still intact, is another possibility.

just massive lol @ rapini in here with his B+M has grown by 4% stats since online poker was banned in the usa

you don't say

It feels like plaaynde is white knighting for some non-existent lady ITT.

That was a completely appropriate post because I basically asked for it. He wasn't trying to say anything other than that my observation that B&M didn't feel dead (as another poster said it was) was accurate.

But I guess some people will find fault in anything Rapini does.

If you'd have included the entire post, I might have have believed you were sincere.