The problem isn't that "we just don't understand." The problem is the modding. But obviously, you're not the big offender.

See you all in the next B&M/Rapini/Moderation thread, where once again we'll all learn that that virtually the entire community is wrong but the mods are right.

Well, I might as well reiterate my longstanding opinion. My biggest complaint with B&M has always been the moderator's personal vendettas that have driven some of my favorite posters from that forum.

Without any thought, four names pop into my mind quickly - posters who were always fun to read. But they're gone now.

I miss the days when the B&M forum was active and fun.

Why are there so many terrible posters complaining about being called out for being terrible posters?

Like, there are a handful of names that without fail, every time I look to the poster's name after reading a terrible post, sure enough, it's one of the bad posters.


Thank you Rapini and Lattimer for keeping terrible posters out of B&M, even if I DO think the modding is overly heavy-handed.


*edit* I should add that I'm most likely on Rapini's close-watch-list for low content deletion and I've had many conversations via private message with him arguing back and forth about things. I'd prefer a forum where some low content stuff gets through (like posting a humorous and relevant youtube link or whatever). With that said, I know enough about myself to know that I sometimes feel like rules that I mostly agree with just don't apply to me. I always think to myself "If I post X, it'll be funny" but when I see that same stuff posted by other people, I look at it and wish it wasn't there because it's a tired joke and most of the time just isn't funny or adds nothing but more crap I have to scroll past to get to more content. When I think about the overall good of the forum, I'm glad no one else can post that stuff either.

THIS is what I'm talking about.

Change the subject and make it about me. (A tried and true tactic of Rapini's for sure, but one others like to use too. Especially his tiny group of cyber-friends.)

Again (for at least the third or fourth time in the past several years) there are huge threads and massive discussion over a Mod and his behavior. it's the same Mod over and over and yet we sit here and blabber on ONCE AGAIN but nothing changes.

Come on Mat, see the light. This guy is the worst. You've got so many great moderators and many more folks waiting in the wings who'd gladly take on the job, if asked.

It's fascinating that Rapini sees this large number of never ending complaints and yet feels compelled to fight for his "job" but has never (to my knowledge) ever considered relinquishing his Mod post for the good of 2+2. You're a distraction dude.

Hey no worries, in a few months I'm sure they'll be another thread started about this knucklehead and we'll all be back at it again.

Seems odd to write this without naming names, but ymmv.

So lets see only great fantastic posters should be allowed to post in brick and mortar is the message being seen in this thread. Rapini is like the gatekeeper to an exclusive club where only the beautiful people can venture beyond the red velvet ropes. He is just like the bouncers that turn away the unwanted clubbers who are deemed unworthy of getting in, telling them they are stupid, their posting is dickkish and ******ed. Keep out only the good posters can post!

This is really ******ed thinking and people are rightfully sick of it. Tons of people play in brick and mortar casinos now that its much harder to play online poker and not all of them are top level players. What Rapini is doing is akin to telling bad poker players that they are not worthy of sitting at tables because they are donks and will not be allowed to play.

Rapini even put in a request in moderation thread in brick and mortar for the top posters to come in and defend brick and mortar from the bad wretched posters who need to be kept out. There are only a couple of people who complain so it makes him no never mind. There are way more people complaining in this thread then a couple, about not being able to participate and as long as Rapini is mod these threads will be a part of 2 plus 2 until they are not allowed.

Again, what we're seeing is typical. The discussion falls apart and the point is lost. Rapini and his small group of supporters will fire off their curt responses, change the subject, pivot the discussion away from Rapini's behavior and then just wait it out until the furor dies down.

This will blow over, he'll continue to abuse his Mod role and act like an ass and months from now there will be another thread started complaining about him. Again.

It's ponderous, man. Just ponderous.

Sorry for two quick posts in a row.

Here’s Rapini soliciting support and basically imploring them to come over and defend him:

Notice that he refers to the situation as "we" and doesn't take ownership of his bad behavior.

And one of his supporters chimes in with:

What’s interesting is the response from another Mod named Garick who hits the nail on the head and makes the most important, spot-on observation of anyone. (See his remarks below.) The odds that anyone in charge - or Rapini for that matter -will take his comments to heart are quite low IMHO.

The first couple of paragraphs isn't a terrible analogy, but you need to change "bad poker players" to "players with poor etiquette." And the bar, or "velvet rope" if you like, isn't high--respect others and respect privacy:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-03-a-1431611/

The last paragraph is a lie, per your usual. Here's every post I've made in the B&M Moderation Discussion Thread recently. Note that one of them actually says the exact opposite of the lie you told (emphasis added):

You must have some sort of psychological disease if you're lying about things that are so easily proven false. Please seek help.

Its not about you. But here is the thing, when you shout .... Rapini is bad he is banning valuable posters and scaring away valuable posters with his evil moderation ........ and you don;lt give us any specifics about what it is he is "modding wrong" we need to try to pull those out of you.

So you were "randomly" banned. For no reason whatsoever other than "Rapini" well tell us who you are and what posts were the point of contention so that we might see for ourselves how terribly wronged you were. Why is that so hard?

Before Rapini I had an issue with TT who was moderating B&M. Its been awhile but I could probably find the thread was an issue and I can definitely tell you what the content of my post was that got him to threaten to have me banned.

If I was making here to make the argument that TT was a bad moderator or that the standards he used for moderating were bad ..... I would spell it all out for you.

So why don't you guys spell out specifically what Rapini is doing that is a problem. If he deleted your post tell us what was in the post (and point us to the thread so we can see for ourselves.

Maybe you have legitimate grievances .... but since my experience is that he hasn't bothered me if you want to convince he is out of line .... show me what he has done. And if you tell us what name you were banned under then at least we can take a look for ourselves.

Lol at Rapini preaching etiquette .

fyp

Zecko, Randomly, you're not helping your case. None of your posts scream 'rational' or 'level-headed', they just scream.

Respecting peoples privacy like you respected mine by divulging my user notes? My user notes are incorrect by the way and hopefully the above will be resolved as it is not true. Fair enough roo time to let this thread run its course. See you on the next one as read only. Not like it is going to get anywhere.

Seriously?

Nothing about my posts are irrational or screaming. As I've said before, attacking the messenger instead of addressing the issue at hand is typical, already predicted and off-putting.

Nice try though.

Always nice to have people i've never actually talked to, especially in BM, talk **** about me!

If you'd read the thread you'd know I agree that the modding is overzealous. Your straw man argument demonstrates my point.

Rapini, do you understand how bad this post was? I recommend you partly step down, get a couple of other mods to B&M, in addition to you and Lattimer. You could maybe do 1/4 of the modding for example. Mat?


Edit: Here are the mods of for example NVG:

Mike Haven, Kevmath, AdamSchwartz, Professionalpoker, Jamie Platinum, TheEngineer, SGT RJ, Admo, mlagoo, R*R, Dynasty

Nine "regular" moderators. B&M has only two. Wouldn't for example four greens be a somewhat correct number for B&M?

ZR: <lie>
R: <you lied again>
ZR: <lol R>

Seek help.

User notes are not private. Every moderator can see them and no one ever has even suggested to me that they're classified information or should not be shared. If there were private information of some sort in there, e.g., someone's real name, address, etc., I would treat that differently. The fact that you're exiled from BBV doesn't qualify.

I've not shouted. Mr. psandman, I don't know why you attempt to diminish my posts by implying that I'm "shouting" or "screaming?" What next, am I going to be attacked by Rapini and others and cast as an unworthy newbie or someone with something to hide who has an agenda? (Did I predict this earlier, or what?)



Also, I was never "randomly banned." I chose that scream named based upon a thread title I was lurking in quite some time ago. In fact, here it is:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...anned-1354548/

The thing you gentlemen seem to miss is that my point has simply been:

This is not the first time he's been the focus of widespread unhappiness. His overzealous modding and arrogant boorish attitude have been widely acknowledged for several years now. Numerous members of 2+2 have provided the specifics.

And yet, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

As I've said before, and I'll say again, how many times does this discussion have to occur in multiple threads over many, many years until someone finally realizes that this fellow has a problem?

It's always The Rapini Show. And it's boring.

My point has been, and continues to be, that he is a habitual offender and every time it is discussed nothing ever gets done to fix the issue. (Unless you count the creation of Mortar and Brick as one, and we know what a waste of time that was.) And like clockwork his small weirdly loyal group of cyber-buds rush to his aid; those complaining get attacked (e.g., you're not a quality poster; you're a troll; you were banned by him in the past and therefore have an agenda, etc.) and on top of that, halfway through the thread the topic is highjacked and the original points lost.

Again, Garick's comments were excellent. Why doesn't anyone want to talk about the points he/she made? And why will no one comment on how often Rapini has been the focus of attention and analyze why this keeps happening?

I'm sorry folks but the Rapini Show is really, really boring.

Come on Mat, find a replacement for this guy.

You haven't apologized for this yet. When you discovered you had spread wrong information in that way, you should. Lattimer clearly felt sorry for the system, and took appropriate action. You would have time to take care of things like these if you had a lesser share of the modding.

Roo, I have no quarrel with you and I apologize if I've offended in any way.

My point has simply been that this is not the first time he's been the focus of widespread unhappiness. His overzealous modding and arrogant boorish attitude have been recognized for years. Numerous members have provided the specifics.

How many times does this discussion have to occur in multiple threads over many, many years until someone finally realizes he's the problem?

Look at his responses to ZeckoRiver posted in the last hour. He comes off as an angry, unhappy person and he's rude and abusive. Are those the traits you want in a 2+2 Mod? IMO, he needs to either resign or Mat needs to put him in timeout until he learns a gentler, kinder approach to Modding.

(If I had this many people complaining about me I'd do what's best for 2+2 and give up the ghost. But that's me. I don't expect Rapini will ever change unless he's dragged away kicking and screaming.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomly Banned.

Again, what we're seeing is typical. The discussion falls apart and the point is lost. Rapini is unfairly assailed by small group of terrible posters who will fire off their curt responses, change the subject, pivot the discussion away from their behavior and then wonder why the rules don't apply to them.

This will blow over, they'll continue to abuse Rapini and act like an ass and months from now there will be another thread started complaining about him. Again.

It's ponderous, man. Just ponderous.

Thank you for making my predictions come true. Not sure why you'd mock me and try to diminish my previous posts. You are quite creative and this response was very entertaining.

If you'd care to respond to my original points I'd be happy to engage.

Normally I wouldn't engage a troll such as yourself, but essentially you've accused me of lying so I need to clear that up. There's nothing to apologize for because I am correct according to both his user notes and the mod who exiled him.