MicroBob (SportsBetting Mod) Needs to go (take 2)

[MicroBob]

Regardless of all this and the quality of posting ability of the two main guys who have an issue with me, I have posted in the thread that I am listening and that I accept feedback. Multiple posters are taking me up on that. Others, ahem...chronic, are just continuing on some weird crusade to get rid of me because I suck.

I feel most of the forum is cool with me there. My idea to add a couple others to communicate with and bounce ideas off of is one I have mentioned and very few had problems in there anymore really. All that stuff was done.

Brian is still free to post his picks if he wants. A different poster showed a screenshot of his closing lines which seemed different to what Brian was claiming he got as far as closing lines. And Brian reacted really harshly and then politely asked me to close his thread...which I did.

That came after Brian's out of the blue brag about his amazing ability to beat close all while ripping a different poster about how he better know how important that is because its like totally fundamental etc etc. This is roughly the same as bragging that he knows how to raise preflop with aces while telling another poster "hope you know how to do that. I really know my stuff here. It's like crucial." Umm, what?. It was just a very weird thing to say...especially out of nowhere.

So post picks and stop being weird. I would be fine with that if Brian would like to start fresh. He is welcome to post whatever picks he likes.

But if he decides not to, then sorry for ruining his big plans to use 2+2 to go tout I guess.

[CHRONICFEVER]

Originally Posted by MicroBob

What are you talking about? Why can't I show favorites? You're just making up nonsense rules.

Of course I have favorites. The guy who says he knows everything about handicapping baseball and/or freaks when somebody offers him a simple bet isn't one of them.

Still time though. Post better and you can be one of my faves too. I'm quick to forgive. In fact, posters who adjust and get better tend to impress me even more than those who are already solid and just stay that way.

care to explain all of your posts in BrianL's threads?

I can't believe I need to explain this to you since you have difficulty detecting sarcasm or brags at times
When BrianL says , "I know all there is to know about capping MLB"
do you really think he means it?
I mean he was steaming from another argument from the other thread in which you kept on trying to egg him on. and his post was to tell the other poster that He is a good baseball capper.

for the outsiders that don't frequent the sb thread often. Here are a few quotes from the LC thread from Microbob and his critics
Is this how a Mod supposed to behave?


BrianL and another regular poster argue over their handicapping methods and as bitter as the convo sounded it was actually productive.


but of course MicroBob can't act like a mod and instead calls one of them idiots. I could care less about him taking either side but the fact that a mod calls another poster an idiot speaks alot

Originally Posted by MicroBob

No, that is not what he means. He does not believe BrianL to be a winning bettor at all...and certainly not as much as Brian says he is.

But according to Brian, Iowa is 11-12-1 of late...so I guess Iowa's observation becomes irrelevant because of that.



Seriously, Brian, I've warned you about really bad sample-size nonsense as evidence one way or another in your attempt to argue your point. When you say that you sound like an idiot. Your goal on here should be to sound like less of an idiot.

Originally Posted by BrianL

All I'm saying is that I have never seen Iowa post any kind of consistent winnings.... as a matter of fact, I've never seen him post anything except for criticism.

I don't really give a **** if a select few on 2p2 think I'm an idiot. You guys think anyone who doesn't see your one way point of view as right is an idiot. It looks to me like 3-4 people here think I'm an idiot, and thats 100% fine with me.


The fact that he said because I'm off the market off of 2% is why I will never win says more about his lack of truly understanding the sports betting world then anything. It shows that you guys have a hell of a lot more to learn about actually capping, then I have to learn about the statistics of it.

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Brian - It doesn't show any of that at all actually.

If that's ALL you're saying then stop with the crappy 11-12-1 stuff that nobody cares about and really DOES make you look like an idiot. You have some arguments in your other claims (whether I agree with them or not) but the whole, "you're 11-12-1, so you aren't even a winner" is the stupidest thing you could ever say in that spot.

Seriously, you could come back with "DSKJVSKHGW#$OTJWES)I$@#%I#$WR)SBI" and that would be a more intelligent argument than "According to you... I must be the luckiest human being of all time.

And I take it you are just the unluckiest since your record for the "Best Bets" is:

Iowa! 11-12-1 -1.69"



But I'm more curious about this whole bit about you knowing everything there is know about baseball handicapping. Can you please elaborate? I was not aware we had somebody on our forum who actually knows EVERYTHING there is to know about it. Everything is kind of a lot. This is a pretty big deal for us.

Originally Posted by BrianL

LMAO.

I exaggerated... OMG. Can't believe it. No one's ever done that before.

Why are you even the mod in a sports betting forum? What exactly do you do? Do you even know anything about it? Do you even bet?

Leave the back and forth between me and Iowa.... stay the **** out of it and if one of us threatens each other, then ban us. Otherwise... GTFO.

Originally Posted by MicroBob

wiper - Can you seriously not see the difference in the nastiness level.

Right now, at this very moment, Brian is being nastier to me than vice-versa. Not horribly so. But you are kind of looking for things that aren't there. And he is being way more stupidly bragging than is warranted...in pretty much any situation actually.

Brian makes the 11-12-1 argument, which is idiotic, and so I tell him that. And it's about the 5th time in like 10 days he has done that. As well as the whole, "I know everything" bit.


Brian - I can post too if I want. If you want your discussion with you Iowa! to be just between you and Iowa! then there is a private-message mechanism for that. You are posting publicly. I get to post publicly too.

If you say something that I think is incorrect or an invalid argument then I am going to say so. I get to do this whether I am a mod or a regular poster.

Recommendation, if you don't really know "everything" there is to know about something then don't use that idea as a means to attempt to win an argument. Again, it is not just ineffective...it is actually counterproductive to your goal of attempting to garner respect and/or convey intelligence.

Recommendation 2, Calm down.

[CHRONICFEVER]

In this episode, A regular poster posts quality picks but Microbob fails to realize it and deletes his post.
The exchange is with a regular and MicroBob . Is this how a mod supposed to be treated? Again, Microbob has lost control

Originally Posted by Iowa!

I wasn't going to say anything about this PM but then I noticed that my picks in the MLB thread, one of which had already won and two of which are currently full arbs vs Pinny, had been deleted so **** it.



It's amusing how it is fine for every Tom, Dick, and Harry who registers here to post their -EV garbage in the pick threads but a regular poster with a potentially winning model decides to post, sets a benchmark for said picks, and it somehow constitutes trolling.

You are worthless, Bob.

Microbob of course responds with his usual , you are weird or an idiot manner

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Iowa - You could explain that to me normally...like an adult without being weird about it.

How am I supposed to know that there is an actual model behind your picks and they are legit when YOU are the one that says, "I'll post a couple of picks per night that have an expected ROI of greater than -2.2% in the 2012 MLB Thread along with some narrative fallacies if it will help people get over the loss of BrianL."

and then add silly and trolly joke write-up additions to each pick?

[BrianL]

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Still time though. Post better and you can be one of my faves too. I'm quick to forgive. In fact, posters who adjust and get better tend to impress me even more than those who are already solid and just stay that way.

Why do you guys think I care about being accepted by the 2p2 crowd? Lets face it... you guys aren't the most socially acceptable people in the world. Most of the people on 2p2 are the people who look down at the ground when talking because they lack real life confidence. Do you really think I care about being accepted by that group of people?

You can say what you want about how I am a newbie... but people in the betting world know me and a quick google search on me would show that I have consistently posted winners for 5+ years.... I might be new to the ***** 2p2 crowd, but do research. I'm well respected in the betting world-- not for my lack of math or proper bankroll management but because I know how to cap a game. Excuse me for defending myself the only way I know how-- but I think its hilarious that people are saying I'ma lifelong loser in the game when I've been able to make a comfortable living from it over the last 5 years. Its alright when you guys think you know more then you actually do, but its not alright when I'm a little cocky?

[MicroBob]

Chronic, don't forget about the aspect of all this being talked through and it being over now. Good job. Keep up the good work.

You're not up for the survivor?

[MicroBob]

Brian, being a little cocky wasn't the issue at all. Post your picks. Share your thoughts on handicapping. You are still welcome to. Others are also welcome to provide feedback....or offer bets. You don't seem to take that very well though.

[BrianL]

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Brian, being a little cocky wasn't the issue at all. Post your picks. Share your thoughts on handicapping. You are still welcome to. Others are also welcome to provide feedback....or offer bets. You don't seem to take that very well though.

I did post my picks.. everyday... thats all I wanted to do... didn't want a million posts about how I'm a lifelong loser when they know absolutely nothing about me.... Thats where you are supposed to come in, but instead you chose to antagonize.

I understand if people who posts picks or even decent opinions criticizing me because they have shown there worth. But WTH is Iowa? The guy has no clue what it takes to actually cap a game, yet his criticizing me because my lines are off and I don't always get the +EV number on all my bets. Yet, if you look at his past posts, he doesn't actually post any picks or opinions... He just criticizes everyones else's hard work, and that just shouldn't be allowed. I've asked around and did some research and he is a lifelong break even sports capper.... Who is he to criticize ANYONE?

[CHRONICFEVER]

Originally Posted by mike ski

Given the amount of strange characters in the Sports Betting forum, I don't see anyone else doing a better job than Bob at the moment. However, he should be more diplomatic when responding to posters. At times he's a little condescending and tries to fit in with the regulars. The way he posted in the BrianL thread was not how a mod should react to a new poster. The fact that he may not be knowledgeable about Sports Betting as much as the regulars is actually a good thing in my opinion since it keeps him apart. So, when he trolls newbies it seems strange and out of place. I just think you should scale back a bit and let the forum breath without jumping down anybody's throat. Just take it easy ...

I do think Bob should stay as mod though. Maybe a compromise could be reached if we have two mods? The only candidate worthy of consideration is Wiper who would add a good balance to the SB forum.

Again, Microbob has difficulty understanding this . Ever since he became a mod , the regulars have stressed this out to him , but he feels the need to put his nose in the bushes every time he gets a chance.
Its pretty hilarious how MicroBob derails and trolls threads.
As for a change, I'm not sure why people are scared of change. Just have him gone,
I mean How much worst could the next mod be? really?

All it takes to mod the forum courtesy of B00t is :

1. If someone posts blatant spam to touts, affiliate links, or blogs, delete it.

2. If someone is spamming with 40 posts in a row being disruptive, delete them.

Otherwise let it be.

That's it.


Microbob fails to understand that and never will

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Chronic, the guys you are quoting who are criticizing me...are not criticizing as much as you think and you have real problems with context. Some of those people very much support me as mod there. I do welcome feedback and open discussions after all. They know I listen.

Anyway, everyone in that thread had cooled out and moved on. Most of us are fine now. Too bad you are not and/or can't figure that out.


I don't think survivors are allowed anymore but I would be happy to do one against you. Regulars would vote. Loser has to leave the forum. You game?

I have no idea who still wants to keep you as a mod
People are lazy and don't really like to take action in general. I'm very certain if some one else steps up to be a mod , you will be gone
I have no idea why you want to keep this mod job anyways
YES, everyone cooled down but the fact is , you have a screw loose and you will revert back to being the troll mod that you always are .

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Chronic, don't forget about the aspect of all this being talked through and it being over now. Good job. Keep up the good work.

You're not up for the survivor?

Not sure how this survivor thing works , and thanks for the pad on the back.
But sure I will pm 2-3 people and ask them to become mods and we can take a poll and we will see where you come in? is that how it works?
We will choose Wiper since he has no problem being a mod

Microbob vs Wiper? should I make a thread in SB or take a poll here?

[MicroBob]

Chronic - No. The survivor is between you and me. The regulars take a vote and one of us leaves.

I don't think they are allowed anymore anyway so it's kind of a moot point. But thought I would offer and then if you accepted we could go from there and see if we are allowed to do it.


I'm not going to comment any more on your other nonsense. I already said I was listening and that I am adding assistance. I'm even listening to you even though you take pretty much every comment/quote out of context.

You posted in the SB forum that you were starting this thread in here. The gang isn't exactly flocking here to agree with how right you are.

The vast majority of the regulars are reasonably okay with me being there. Not enamored with it or think I'm the greatest guy ever, but also not all-out against me as you are.

What do you think the SB forum opinion is of you as a poster?

[DodgerIrish]

Originally Posted by BrianL

Most of the people on 2p2 are the people who look down at the ground when talking because they lack real life confidence. Do you really think I care about being accepted by that group of people?

[CHRONICFEVER]

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Chronic - No. The survivor is between you and me. The regulars take a vote and one of us leaves.

I don't think they are allowed anymore anyway so it's kind of a moot point. But thought I would offer and then if you accepted we could go from there and see if we are allowed to do it.

Leave what ? the forums for good and be stoned to death(banned) and cease to exist? Maybe I can take that gamble but I would like to stick to the main objective and that is to have a more competent mod.

What difference does it make between your "survivor" proposal and making a poll between you and someone else to be a mod?

[DodgerIrish]

Originally Posted by BrianL

Excuse me for defending myself the only way I know how

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=245

Don't blame him. He just doesn't know another way

[DodgerIrish]

Originally Posted by BrianL

Its alright when you guys think you know more then you actually do, but its not alright when I'm a little cocky?

Well one of those things is a fact, and the other is a blow hard statement.

Guess which is which?

[DodgerIrish]

Originally Posted by BrianL

But WTH is Iowa? The guy has no clue what it takes to actually cap a game, yet his criticizing me because my lines are off and I don't always get the +EV number on all my bets.

Well here are the facts. You turned down a 1k bet that you would end up at the end of the season on your record, while you had a nice head-start btw. In fact you lashed out when it was brought up, not just merely declined.

Iowa is wanting to up the stakes to 5k in the NBA pool.

Who do you think the avg person would guess is more successful?

Who is willing to put their money where their mouth is?

[DodgerIrish]

Originally Posted by BrianL

didn't want a million posts about how I'm a lifelong loser when they know absolutely nothing about me

That never happened, straw-man more plz