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View Poll Results: Does Gary Johnson tilt you?
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YES
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NO, I DONATE/SUPPORT HIS CAUSE
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07-22-2011, 10:19 PM
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#46
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Vacant... with a hint of sadness
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,305
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
GJ's chances are much better? One in a million is not a lot more than zero.
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You aren't a math guy are you?
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07-22-2011, 10:42 PM
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#47
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banned
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Somalia ftw
Posts: 3,084
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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There's a reason why unions, insurance groups, business associations, bicycle hobby groups or zillions more groups get behind candidates. They look for those that support their interest and often support them.
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Pretty sure electability is a factor in their decision making process, not simply who shows up to speak to their membership or creates a section on their website about their particular cause.
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07-23-2011, 07:24 AM
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#48
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,496
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Mutant K12
You aren't a math guy are you?
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Look, the point is neither of them have a realistic chance of ever being elected (or even of being a credible candidate). Also, feel free to set up a poll to find out if people actually think that one in a million is much more than zero.
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07-23-2011, 09:10 AM
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#49
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pontiff of Poodles
Posts: 1,974
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
This. Mason was impressed when he received a phone call from Gary Johnson and the whole thing snowballed from there. Gary Johnson appeared at the annual 2+2 party/get-together in Las Vegas during the WSOP (on July 7).
Mason is also impressed that Gary will publicly talk about his support for the rights of Americans to play online poker, etc. I don't know if Ron Paul has really addressed that topic.
I'm positive that if Ron Paul would have called Mason, shown up at the 2+2 party in Las Vegas, and publicly talked about his support of the legalization and regulation of online poker in the U.S. that Mason would have supported him first. If Ron Paul were to do all of that stuff now Mason and 2+2 would probably consider throwing some of their support behind him and/or switching their allegiance to Ron if he stays alive in the race longer than Gary.
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
If any other presidential candidate did all that you describe then I believe you would be absolutely correct. I think the chances of that happening are less than most people think Gary Johnson's chances are of becoming president.
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I respectfully disagree because Mason has said that he supports Johnson because of more than just poker.
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07-23-2011, 09:35 AM
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#50
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Maat Mons
Posts: 2,763
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
For the longest time I thought the warning about a phishing page was referring to the ad below it, iow, don't click on this ad! Ok so I'm not very bright. Anyway my interest in poker consists of watching it on tv. I post mostly in POG. Gary Johnson has zero chance of becoming the Republican nominee, much less president. If you want to promote him fine, it's your site, do what you want with it. But it's a waste of space.
I'm sorry people lost their money playing online poker but they knew the risk going in. That's why they call it gambling.
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07-24-2011, 10:27 AM
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#51
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 694
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Look, the point is neither of them have a realistic chance of ever being elected (or even of being a credible candidate). Also, feel free to set up a poll to find out if people actually think that one in a million is much more than zero.
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0.000001 is not a much better chance than  0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 ?
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07-24-2011, 10:48 AM
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#52
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banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: staking
Posts: 565
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
criticism/suggestions are fine. my point is that this issue has been complained about time and time again including gregorios 6 page thread and the administration made their position extremely clear. further whining is useless and annoying
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this.
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07-24-2011, 11:30 AM
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#53
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banned
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Incessant Troll
Posts: 959
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
Please replace Gary Johnson's photo with one of Pat Paulsen and all of this will make much more sense.
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07-24-2011, 06:38 PM
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#54
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,496
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Subterranean
0.000001 is not a much better chance than  0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 ?
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Not in the real world, it isn't. If you want to dance on mathematical pinheads and point out that one is however many orders of magnitude more likely than the other, that's fine (and I do understand that), but the point, obviously, is that Gary Johnson, like OP, has no meaningful chance of becoming President, or even a credible contender for President.
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07-24-2011, 06:39 PM
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#55
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,496
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Le Gonso
I guess this is what we have to look forward to for 18 months of each election cycle now
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Especially as Gary Johnson appears to want to run for President every time there's an election.
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07-24-2011, 07:31 PM
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#56
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King of the sidebar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 16,001
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Especially as Gary Johnson appears to want to run for President every time there's an election.
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Running for President is the new way to build a mailing list to get a PAC going. You don't even have to be credible anymore.
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07-24-2011, 10:55 PM
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#57
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Tiger > Jack
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,503
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Re: OFFICIAL GARY JOHNSON REMOVAL THREAD
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Originally Posted by ArcadianSky
+1
and if you want to promote him here, than allow us to promote who we believe in.
the double standard and hypocrisy is pretty ****ed up. mods/owners/founders...if you believe in GJ and want to promote him in NVG (and break your own rules), then great...but we should be allowed to promote whichever candidates we endorse here, as well (and the guideline should be VOID)
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Your logic. It sucks.
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07-24-2011, 10:57 PM
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#58
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Tiger > Jack
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,503
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Re: OFFICIAL GARY JOHNSON REMOVAL THREAD
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Originally Posted by Gummybearz
I like your thoughts on the poll, im just so tilted with all the ads thats what came to my mind first.
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There's an easy solution to this...
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When it comes to supporting our own candidates there is a double standard indeed
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No, there's not. One side owns this website and can do what they want with it. The other side (you) do not own this website and therefore cannot do whatever you want with it.
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07-24-2011, 11:03 PM
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#59
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Tiger > Jack
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,503
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
Ok, let me boil it down. Should users of a service/product be able to offer criticism to the owners in an attempt to the improve the product/service without being shouted down and told to go elsewhere? Is there some exception about internet forums?
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Who said anything about not being able to offer criticism?
What's being "shouted" at the OP is how horrible his logic is when it comes to this "double standard" talk. There is no double standard, because site owners and posters who visit that site are not on equal footing in the first place.
If they were letting certain posters advertise a political candidate while disallowing others from doing so, then we'd have a double standard to talk about.
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07-26-2011, 06:43 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 737
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Re: Gary Johnson removal?
2+2 is not a monopoly, other candidates can run their ads elsewhere and get the exposure they need, so no complaint from me about the ads running here, or the open support of 2+2 management.
My only peeve is the phrase "the people's president", it makes it sound like he is running for chairman of the supreme soviet.
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