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08-13-2017 , 10:51 PM
Is it possible to make "Popular Forums" "Some Popular Forums"?

1. Immediately showing new users there's even more to it, popular forums and others
2. Making us using the other forums feel better, every user feels their forum is popular, at least among themselves
3. Numbers are much, but not all. Encouraging diversity, even if acknowledging the power of many

Last edited by plaaynde; 08-13-2017 at 11:08 PM.
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08-13-2017 , 10:53 PM
No
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08-13-2017 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
OOT clearly more popular than BBV4L

It sure is. It's the #5 forum, with 7x the page views of 4L this year.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
BBV4L absolutely crushes politics in popularity


4L: 39,254 threads. 3,367,961 posts

Politics: 9,391 threads. 1,636,459 posts
Um, no. You've actually managed to move up the ladder here, as Politics is the #4 forum, and has over 8x the page views of 4L.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Hey don't you post in SMP?



4L: 39,254 threads. 3,367,961 posts

SMP: 7,071 threads. 277,020 posts


Congrats, you finally found one that gets less traffic, although less than half as much rather than the big discrepancy that is implied here. No idea how those thread and post numbers work; they don't make a lot of sense to me given what the traffic is now and what it's been in the past, but I don't really care as those numbers aren't especially relevant.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
I'm just pointing out that it's crazy to infer or state that OOT is more popular than BBV4L.
Actually, you're demonstrating a bias that is clouding your judgement, because OOT crushes 4L and has for a long time. But who cares?

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
I'm also defending the place, cause someone is ****ting on it and suggesting to merge it.
We've had one or two suggestions to merge some community forums. Discussion of that is helpful. Freaking out with a bunch of misinformed and then needless posts isn't.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Regardless, it's not going anywhere, and it will be around for a long time. The Grand Poo-Bah himself has said this.

BBV4L
OK, then settle down!

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Instead of 86ing The Studio, why not make it a sub of The Lounge? There is a pretty regular, albeit small, group of regular posters there.
See, now this is helpful.

Just to make it clear, whatever happens with The Studio, there's no plan to make anything disappear, and the active threads would definitely be going somewhere. Yours might be the best solution - probably worth seeing what TL; DR mods think.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
There's no discussion about 86ing the economics sub in Politics, and it's basically just Trolly posting about Sumo wrestling. It would be ridiculous to leave it but 86 The Studio imo.
Actually, it did come up in the mod forum - I forgot to mention it here, although it wasn't critical to the discussion as it's a subforum and won't really change the overall forum organization. But yeah, it does seem like a pretty silly forum to have around right now.

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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
What about POG?
What about it?

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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
Keep 4L, and POG.
OK. I don't think we were considering getting rid of either.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
Also, shouldn't BBV be at the top of the "popular forums" list?
No. But it could be in there - it's right on the edge in terms of page views. Not that the list is in order of popularity anyway. It includes some of the most popular, and a few others I thought important to include.

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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Is it possible to make "Popular Forums" "Some Popular Forums"?

1. Immediately showing new users there's even more to it, popular forums and others
2. Making us using the other forums feel better, every user feels their forum is popular, at least among themselves
3. Numbers are much, but not all. Encouraging diversity, even if acknowledging the power of many
I don't even know where to start with this. I sure hope this wasn't a serious post, but whether it was or not, I think gregorio already covered it nicely.
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08-14-2017 , 03:33 AM
Oh good, thanks.
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08-16-2017 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Looks to be on par with 4L. Not quite making it among the big guys.

Yet.
We very nearly have more posts in our politics thread than Politics has in its forum. Just sayin'.

Take the opportunity not to put POG in with sports though. It's games, not about games. Put it in with communities iyam.
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08-16-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Take the opportunity not to put POG in with sports though. It's games, not about games. Put it in with communities iyam.
Where do Video Games go then?
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08-16-2017 , 09:03 PM
video games is talking about video games

pog literally is the games. and its evolved to mainly community discussion as of late
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08-16-2017 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
We very nearly have more posts in our politics thread than Politics has in its forum. Just sayin'.
wat
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08-17-2017 , 04:21 AM
I could be missing it blindly, but is there a forum for Crypto and trading?
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08-17-2017 , 04:30 AM
Not sure what that means, but it sounds like a no. If you mean for trading funds, we have a dedicated thread for that in the Internet Poker forum.
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08-17-2017 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Not sure what that means, but it sounds like a no. If you mean for trading funds, we have a dedicated thread for that in the Internet Poker forum.
My bad - had the 'other topics' submenu minimised and missed the Bus,Fin & Inv forum.
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08-17-2017 , 05:37 AM
I'm a big fan of the economics sub forum btw
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08-17-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Not sure what that means, but it sounds like a no. If you mean for trading funds, we have a dedicated thread for that in the Internet Poker forum.

crypto currency.
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08-17-2017 , 05:33 PM
I would like to see the blogs in Health and Fitness be a sub-forum. The main forum should be left to discussion of various Health and Fitness topics.
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08-17-2017 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Um, no. You've actually managed to move up the ladder here, as Politics is the #4 forum, and has over 8x the page views of 4L
Wow the poker book business must be in serious decline. Sure mods will weigh in and state it has never been better though. Poker bust must be really hurting TwoPlusTwo. I really like Mason btw, think he's a good guy. Also politics forum is not a good look for pols you want to convince that poker is a game of skill that should get the same treatment that fantasy football gets. Just sayin.
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08-17-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
I would like to see the blogs in Health and Fitness be a sub-forum. The main forum should be left to discussion of various Health and Fitness topics.
The main H&F forum would be almost dead if you did that.
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08-18-2017 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Wow the poker book business must be in serious decline. Sure mods will weigh in and state it has never been better though. Poker bust must be really hurting TwoPlusTwo.
I'm really lost how this relates to the post you quoted. I'm sure poker book sales are down from years ago, but no mod would really be qualified to say anyway.

As for the forums themselves, the busiest forums have been a mix of poker-related and OT forums for several years, as they are now. Forum traffic is quite a bit lower than it used to be, but I think most people who have been here for a number of years are aware of that.
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08-18-2017 , 01:19 AM
Hi.

I just saw this thread.

and as someone who NEVER posts outside of bbv4l I am here to throw my weight behind 4l.

please don't kill 4l it's the only reason I come here ( Aussie land had banned online poker now soo.)

also, it's Fantasy football season soon and I need to CRUSH everyone there.

so in conclusion.

please leave bbv4l alone, it's the only place I can post without getting an infraction.

Last edited by LuckyLuke01; 08-18-2017 at 01:20 AM. Reason: **** posting is ****... please refer to Allcowseatgrass's posts
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08-18-2017 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
We very nearly have more posts in our politics thread than Politics has in its forum. Just sayin'.

Take the opportunity not to put POG in with sports though. It's games, not about games. Put it in with communities iyam.
jm3 keeps going on about all his sheep games. but i agree it should be in the communities sub forum
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08-18-2017 , 02:37 AM
There's been pretty much zero consideration given to killing 4L or any other Community forum, aside from one person who started a thread about combining them, and ACEG hugely overreacting to it.

Would love more feedback about overall changes and less about people worrying that their favourite forum is going to disappear. But I appreciate everyone's passion.
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08-18-2017 , 12:05 PM
Please keep the limit-->NL forum. I am still working on bet sizing. Many thanks.
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08-18-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Actually, it did come up in the mod forum - I forgot to mention it here, although it wasn't critical to the discussion as it's a subforum and won't really change the overall forum organization. But yeah, it does seem like a pretty silly forum to have around right now.
Not that the Economics sub-forum only seems silly because of the current forum surplus. Once you cut the forum supply its value will shoot through the roof.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
There's no discussion about 86ing the economics sub in Politics, and it's basically just Trolly posting about Sumo wrestling. It would be ridiculous to leave it but 86 The Studio imo.
please move this poster to French BBV
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08-18-2017 , 12:28 PM
Feel relived for knowing 4L will live on.

Sorry for saying something.
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08-18-2017 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
The main H&F forum would be almost dead if you did that.
Ok, then a sub-forum for topics that don't relate to blogs.
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08-18-2017 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay
I'm a big fan of the economics sub forum btw
Reported!

Dammit, mmmmkay.
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