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03-25-2014 , 06:33 PM
You said you would make his family famous and embarrass his wife publicly, iirc.

That is different from contacting fsmily members.

Privately contacting family members or publicly embarrassing/ outing someone who wronged you is fine (in my book, fwiw), but to go after a public shaming of his family/friends/relatives is beyond inappropriate.
03-25-2014 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Demitri, posting someone's personal info all over the internet and bombarding his family with messages labelling him a thief and a scammer is amazingly brutal; you should only be doing this when it's an undisputed case of theft and the player remains a threat to the poker community or the general population. Using it as a weapon with which to beat a guy into complying with your demands is dangerously close to extortion, and though I mostly find your angry rants amusing it's your threats regarding the player's private life that I find repulsive. If you were just berating him many of us would just shrug it off as another "demitri gonna demitri" moment.

I know you think I have some sort of personal vendetta against you; this really isn't the case. I've always considered you to be an amusingly angry moron but ultimately one of the good guys, and though your behaviour in the jokueris thread was pretty ugly I recall posting in support of your position. I've no doubt you'll throw a reference to my 2009 fake death episode back in my face, and that's not unreasonable as I don't deny my own scummy behaviour back then. But honestly, you just can't treat people the way you've treated this guy and not expect some sort of backlash. Those chatlogs are ****ing disgusting and you need to take a step back and think about how all this affects people's perception of you and ultimately costs you money.

Also, 2+2 ought to forbid the posting of personal information in disputed cases. In fact I'm sure it's a (largely ignored) condition in the OP of the negative feedback thread that personal info and photos are forbidden; either way it ought to be enforced and the community needs to stand up to people like Demitri who seek to bully and intimidate vulnerable people with threats to their personal security.
some of the above i agree with ,fatcs ...i did not contact ANY of his family ,i thought i was being scammed so of course i took action

we have to post info to warn others right ?

i find it hard to take insults from you as i have never scammed or done anything scummy on 2+2 and you did

i know you made up for it ,so we don't need to go there

but making out i am the devil cause i vent against a few bad horses is wrong ,judge people on the majority of there work not the small minority

you even said it above ,you just called me a moron...but i am a moron for calling people names ?you just called me a what ?

i have never hurt anyone or even tried to ,name calling is what it is ...2+2 is full of it ,yet i am here saying please don't ban me for it

UNREAL
03-25-2014 , 06:53 PM
This demetri reminds me of another by the same name:

03-25-2014 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
you do get all i have done is insult a guy that i have proved to have problems with

in turn you are insulting me for insulting

that does not make you look really silly ???
I think if you're making this into a who looks sillyer contest you'll win 100 times in a row. Against basically anyone.

And yes thank you for posting to warn everyone from the evil scammer asylum, he def. intends to scam and scam again LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOLOLLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL ....LOLLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLOLL LOLLOLLOLOLOLLOL

u obv have the poker communitys best interest at heart.....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLO
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03-25-2014 , 06:56 PM
I worked with bogan so I've seen a backer go full ****** on a horse enough times for it to no longer register. Like I say, I really don't have a personal "beef" with you so I apologise for calling you stupid. My concern is for the poor saps out there grinding $2 180s and living in fear that the moment they hit a downswing their backer will crack the whip and bombard all their facebook friends with capslock rants about scamming and degeneracy.

The internet is a powerful weapon! Use it responsibly.
03-25-2014 , 07:38 PM
I don't know anyone involved but I find it pretty disturbing how demetri has acted and would not want a clearly unstable individual to advertise or generate revenue from a site I was running.
03-25-2014 , 07:59 PM
this really shouldn't be an "lol" thread.

the JokerUs thread, yeah that guy actually stole money from dimitri. so he threaten to kill him. or send guys to kill him. or send guys to collect the $$ by any means necessary. or hire legit debt collectors to ack nicely or w/e he threatened to do.

in that thread he was outing an actual scammer who actually stole money from him, but from the chat logs get a small window into what kind of person dimitri is.

the SECOND thread, the one from today:

a family man gets a staking deal to try provide for his wife and 2 babies, but it doesn't go well and he loses money. he NEVER breaks the agreement. and dimitri threatens him and his family. look at THOSE chat logs and you really see what kind of person he is.

again, what is one good reason to allow that kind of person to sign up 2p2 users who may end up owing him large amounts of $$?

what % chance that a backer signs a player through 2p2 then sends people to beat them into a coma is acceptable for 2p2? 10%? 1%?

of course you wouldn't let him sign horses here AFTER he killed one, right?
03-25-2014 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
this really shouldn't be an "lol" thread.

the JokerUs thread, yeah that guy actually stole money from dimitri. so he threaten to kill him. or send guys to kill him. or send guys to collect the $$ by any means necessary. or hire legit debt collectors to ack nicely or w/e he threatened to do.

in that thread he was outing an actual scammer who actually stole money from him, but from the chat logs get a small window into what kind of person dimitri is.

the SECOND thread, the one from today:

a family man gets a staking deal to try provide for his wife and 2 babies, but it doesn't go well and he loses money. he NEVER breaks the agreement. and dimitri threatens him and his family. look at THOSE chat logs and you really see what kind of person he is.

again, what is one good reason to allow that kind of person to sign up 2p2 users who may end up owing him large amounts of $$?

what % chance that a backer signs a player through 2p2 then sends people to beat them into a coma is acceptable for 2p2? 10%? 1%?

of course you wouldn't let him sign horses here AFTER he killed one, right?
LOL what film are you watching ???

i did not threaten his family ,wake up please

you talk like he did nothing wrong ,try reading my side ....i went of at him because he did plenty wrong (he gave as good as he got)...i may be wrong for going mad at him but he was wrong for breaking the stakes rules

and stuff like taking a loan from me to play full time and then getting a job straight after

as if i won't go mad at that ,try reading my side instead of reading a load of jumbled up copy and paste notes

i posted loads of chat logs where he refused to play the agreed stakes

again of course i get mad ,who would not

getting mad is human,that is all i did ...nothing more
03-25-2014 , 08:15 PM
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again, what is one good reason to allow that kind of person to sign up 2p2 users who may end up owing him large amounts of $$?
?

also a piece of serious advice dimitri:

this isn't when u keep arguing ur case.

this is when you acknowledge that your behavior was deplorable, say you regret it, and if allowed to stay on 2p2 it won't happen again.

Last edited by DrawNone; 03-25-2014 at 08:20 PM.
03-25-2014 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
i went mad

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i went mad
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
yes i go mad

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i am a mad man

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i'm not aloud to get angry and vent??? REALLY

of course i do
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
i may be wrong for going mad at him

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as if i won't go mad at that

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again of course i get mad

. . .

getting mad is human
I think it's time for a new undertitle for this guy.
03-25-2014 , 08:38 PM
Apparently, he mad bro.
03-25-2014 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
I think it's time for a new undertitle for this guy.
"See my mad thread"
03-25-2014 , 10:41 PM
I personally think demetri should be permabanned on 2p2, but maybe mods can just temp ban him now and see if he can wrap his head around how to treat people without berating and threatening them. Joker thread was strike 1, Asylum thread is strike 2, 3 strikes and you're gone from this forum imo.
03-25-2014 , 10:57 PM
OK, I think this thread has served its purpose in drawing wider attention to the issue, I'm aware of it and I'm sure Mat is too (and will likely want me and/or other MP mods to decide on this and won't be directly involved unless he sees a problem). Otherwise, it seems like we're just having a duplicate of the discussion going on in MTTc:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...-side-1428824/

For that reason, I'm going to lock this up now. ATF isn't that busy with new threads, so this should stay on the front page for some time. OP is welcome to LMK if there's some reason we need to reopen it.

As for further action, I expect to be discussing this with fellow mods. My own first thought is that what would be at stake (no pun intended) here would be the future of marketplace privileges, not a ban. But if people want to give some input on that, feel free to do so in the MTTc thread. I haven't talked to any other mod about this yet, so maybe there will be other ideas.
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