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Old 07-26-2012, 12:10 AM   #1
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Dear forum Council....



I would like to bring forward a request that I think is imperative to the entire human race.

I would like to experiment with something I call a Fabric. In which a spark is set off that may or may not start a procedure for categorizing conversations and cross referencing them. This especially pertains to the off topic lounge, which is where I would like to try this out in SMP, because I think it is partly science and partly philosophy.

I tried to do this without asking and was halted and told that I should bring this up here first.

I'm not sure others can see it the way I do but the thread topics are being discussed horizontally, and we can instead created a reference to other topics that will not only keep threads on topic but efficient.

So if a thread says: if A then B
We will no longer debate A in that thread
A can be cross linked to its own debate
Then 'if A then B' can be debated assuming A

I think this is urgently importantly because its a key to solving some real world issues through non division

Nobody else has to do anything I'll set it up and if it doesn't catch on then it'll just fade away.


Here was the original proposal thread that introduces a concept that needs many supporting points, then it talks about what they all mean when viewed together....This is a total point i can't make without this 'system', and another point is somethings cannot be explained in parts, our science doesn't realize that.

So then also the thread demonstrates the idea of 'Fabric'












Here is the OP:





To read the point of all this skip to the bold.

This thread is kind of an example or an experiment. I don't think we have this anywhere because we are conditioned on division. There isn't even a section for this really (well its a poker forum) but I chose philosophy. I have a topic but there's an underlying topic as well in that some things cannot be understood in their parts, society doesn't usually readily identify this problem. There needs to be a way of connecting separate parts into a whole in order to understand some topics.

I'd like to suggest the that the tangible problems the world faces today, such as hunger, poverty, violence, war, and so on, are all actually part of the same single issue, that is division. That each problem cannot be solved nor understood on its own and that any type of division and analyzing is the actual problem and the only problem.

So to set up my 'argument' there are threads with each of the parts, all cross-linked with cliffs, to this thread with an explanation why (explained in each thread).

These are the links to the threads that together I feel give an understanding of my argument (it's not necessary to read them):

Discussion on introducing the ideal of global human rights

Teaching religious tolerance in school

A discussion on whether thoughts create reality and why it proves itself true.

Dissolving the definition of intelligence and redefining it.


Debating whether or not democracy can possibly even work.


Questing whether there is an 'I' to think.

Asking whether the debate on Atheism vs. Religion has no sides and is simply just conflict.

Dicussing the effects of time travel on the 'individual'

Re-examining Bruce Lee's purpose.


Examining the role of conflict.


Now people can argue my overall argument in this thread, and/or talk about the idea of 'fabrics', but any arguments against the threads that make this one up should be taken up in the respective thread.





So my main thought is that the world can actually change and most of it can happen dramatically in a day. In five starting steps towards real change:

1) The introduction of the ideals of global human rights. Rights to food, water, shelter, and uncensored Internet. Until humans stop fighting for individual groups rights and start seeing in terms of global, we will always have issues of famine war poverty etc.

2) We need to teach about religions in school in order to promote compassion, understanding, and connectedness. As we do this we will gradually move away from break neck competitive lifestyles to passion and teachings about how to live as a peaceful society.

3) We redefine intelligence to include 'tends towards good', without needing to define good because as I talk about it in the respective thread, the question of what is good cancels itself out.

4) Will come naturally that is the dissolution of economy.

5) Will come naturally that is the 'invention' of time travel effects of it on our consciousness.




Every single movement whether religious, political, national, protest, occupy, everything has been a division, the movement itself is the issue. All conspiracy theories seek to find and define the villain. But there is no villain, human did this to themselves, and the only problem is not realizing this as a whole.


This thread is cross-posted here (and thus part of its Fabric: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...l#post33947041

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:17 AM   #2
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Re: Dear forum Council....

slow pony. i was just about to make this thread.

also, i predict that the person below me will thinks they are first
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:17 AM   #3
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In 1st I hope. lol Wut?
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Re: Dear forum Council....

I fold.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:23 AM   #5
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Is this what you wanted?
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:25 AM   #6
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Re: Dear forum Council....

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To read the point of all this skip to the bold.
ICWUDT

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Re: Dear forum Council....

Here is where my bold was.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:29 AM   #8
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Re: Dear forum Council....

All you kids are funny, I tell everyone I know and i'm not joking.

I just realized that I don't need to post this in SMP to try it out I just have to sew the Fabric to here.

This thread was sewn to the OP: Is there a benefit to religious debate


Notice I already have a thread about Asking whether the debate on Atheism vs. Religion has no sides and is simply just conflict.

So I just cross referenced them. And in the first link referenced in this post there is a huge debate on religion going on, but that should be cross referenced and sent to its own thread. People are arguing about religion in a thread where the topic is whether the argument is worthy.


Time travel is at stake here.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:31 AM   #9
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People are arguing about religion in a thread where the topic is whether the argument is worthy.
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Is this what you wanted?
No I wanted 101% seriousness.


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ICWUDT
Y'all are funny.



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Here's the bold.
Y'all are funny
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:32 AM   #11
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Ya well pretty much every religious and philosophical debate has this element....so it should be sent to its own thread, then discussions can be clean of redundant conversations. The streamline is huge (I kinda made that word usage up).
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This thread is cross-posted
Why would you do something like this? I would have gone for one less, not one more.
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Why would you do something like this? I would have gone for one less, not one more.
I don't understand?

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:42 AM   #14
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No I wanted 101% seriousness.

Y'all are funny.





Y'all are funny

I can only give you 110%

Its all I know how to do
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I can only give you 110%

Its all I know how to do
I noticed and I appreciate!
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