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05-08-2017 , 10:57 PM
Based on the mod leaving the thread up and participating in it...
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05-08-2017 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Based on the mod leaving the thread up and participating in it...
Wow, 2+2 must have a lot of official positions!
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05-08-2017 , 11:23 PM
Are mods not representatives of this forum?
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05-08-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Wow, 2+2 must have a lot of official positions!
Is this the official position of 2p2?
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05-08-2017 , 11:25 PM
Ah, the social justice warrior rides in on his gleaming white charger to protect all us adults from open and spirited debate. How refreshing.

Seriously, the thought police should **** right off.

Last edited by Gin 'n Tonic; 05-08-2017 at 11:34 PM.
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05-08-2017 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Sure is a lot of hate speech from toothsayer and hardpoker over in smp

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...x-gto-1664634/

Is it the official position of 2p2 that all homosexuals are incestuous? Or just the official position of smp?
You should consider starting a thread opposing the hate speech and the homosexuals are incestuous position you are referring to and then smp and/or twoplustwo could have another official position.
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05-09-2017 , 12:09 AM
It's damn amazing that the twoplustwo official position continues to grow with every new thread.
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05-09-2017 , 12:20 AM
I see it isn't the official position of 2p2 that jnandez's head is too big.
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05-09-2017 , 12:40 AM
seems like a lot of the mod crew supports smp hate speech, so it really does feel like an official position
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05-09-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
I see it isn't the official position of 2p2 that jnandez's head is too big.
Ha ha. That was a special one and to think it could have been an official position.
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05-09-2017 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
seems like a lot of the mod crew supports smp hate speech, so it really does feel like an official position
Have you been talking to some of the "mod crew" privately? Because exactly zero mods in this thread have suggested they do or don't support "smp hate speech". But I think you know that already, just as you know that it is not "the official position of 2p2 that all homosexuals are incestuous? Or just the official position of smp?".

Instead of all this silly passive aggressiveness, why don't you just come out and say what the problem is and what you think should be done about it? Or contact SMP mods about it, or do this:

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Originally Posted by R*R
You should consider starting a thread opposing the hate speech and the homosexuals are incestuous position you are referring to and then smp and/or twoplustwo could have another official position.
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05-09-2017 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
seems like a lot of the mod crew supports smp hate speech, so it really does feel like an official position
They don't support it, they just dogpile onto anyone who raises an objection to it.
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05-09-2017 , 09:23 AM
Didn't read more than a couple of sentences from a few paragraphs of OP so I can't say for sure, but that OP seems like the ignorant homophobic ramblings of someone with a psychotic disorder. Also skimmed the first few posts after OP and from a cursory glance it seems like one of the most offensive things I've read on 2p2 or anywhere for that matter.

If that's acceptable in SMP, that forum should just be shut down and that thread could get merged into stormfront. That said, it's probably not much worse than some PU content, but I don't read anything there either.

Anyway, complaining about it in the manner you did in a thread that about 10 people read seems like the most effective way to make sure nobody does anything about it.
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05-09-2017 , 09:28 AM
Nothing remotely like that is allowed in Pv7.0

PU went ages ago.
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05-09-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Ah, the social justice warrior rides in on his gleaming white charger to protect all us adults from open and spirited debate. How refreshing.

Seriously, the thought police should **** right off.
All posts from SJW's should be removed, these kind of opinions are not welcome here.

Last edited by Mr.mmmKay; 05-09-2017 at 09:37 AM.
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05-09-2017 , 09:33 AM
These politard guys are so great, spreading their frothy sunshine wherever they go.
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05-09-2017 , 09:52 AM
chez, from what I've read in atf, I thought PU or whatever name it's on these days was 2p2's resident hate-speech forum.
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05-09-2017 , 10:18 AM
Some hate it because we welcome 2+2ers posters with a wide range of political views, don't behave in a partisan manner towards those we profoundly disagree and don't allow abuse of posters outside some threads specifically designated for that purpose. The other side of the coin is that everyone has to make the effort to avoid being offensive/hateful to vulnerable social groups.

If you believe what people say, you should see what TS says about me
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05-09-2017 , 10:26 AM
I said I disagree with Hitler.

Just sayin'

So you don't think low of me, event if I'm SMP to a great part.
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05-09-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
They don't support it, they just dogpile onto anyone who raises an objection to it.
Yeah, that's for sure - I disputed his assertion that the existence of that thread implied a 2+2 official position, R*R suggested he start a thread opposing the one he's concerned about, and gregorio made a couple of jokes. I hope Noodle's OK after that massive dogpile!

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 05-09-2017 at 06:38 PM. Reason: Added the word "assertion" - how'd I miss that?
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05-09-2017 , 06:01 PM
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I disputed his that the existence of that thread implied a 2+2 official position
I didn't expect to be taken so literally. That was a surprise.
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05-09-2017 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I didn't expect to be taken so literally. That was a surprise.
Oh, brother. It surprised you, but then you double and triple downed on it.

But yeah, it was probably a little passive-aggressiveness of mine in reply to yours (TBH, not sure if I'm even using that term 100% correctly, but that's what it strikes me as), but the point is this - if you have an issue with a thread somewhere, isn't it a lot more productive if you, as I suggested earlier:

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just come out and say what the problem is and what you think should be done about it? Or contact SMP mods about it
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05-09-2017 , 06:50 PM
The problem is:

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You acknowledge and agree that Two Plus Two may archive Your Content and may also disclose Your Content at any time and for any reason. Since we do not pre-screen user generated content, you may be exposed to content that is offensive, indecent, or objectionable. In addition, you hereby agree not to use Your Content or the Service in any other matter to:

1. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/misc.php?do=showrules

such content was posted, and rather than address it, the mods of the forum engaged in it and have created a culture that allows people like toothsayer to gleefully engage in such posting and cheerleading.

What should be done about it? I dunno, whatever mods are supposed to do to adhere to the above linked rule for the forum.

I was just trying to draw attention to the thread and point out that the mod(s) of the forum are already aware and don't seem to care.
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05-09-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
such content was posted, and rather than address it, the mods of the forum engaged in it and have created a culture that allows people like toothsayer to gleefully engage in such posting and cheerleading.
A lot of that list is very subjective, and you'll see those standards applied differently in different forums, as I'm sure you know. Since I'm not going to be entering that forum to overrule any moderators as that isn't my role (Hi Mat!), I haven't really looked at the thread in-depth. There certainly was some bizarre things I read in my skimming of it, but I couldn't say whether it's any worse than the sort of thing that's allowed in that and other forums which I never read.

I guess that's not especially helpful to you, though. You've linked the thread here, so others can now weigh in and give their opinions as well. I'll step out from my silly argument about whether that thread reflects an official 2+2 position.

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I was just trying to draw attention to the thread and point out that the mod(s) of the forum are already aware and don't seem to care.
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05-09-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yeah, that's for sure - I disputed his assertion that the existence of that thread implied a 2+2 official position, R*R suggested he start a thread opposing the one he's concerned about, and gregorio made a couple of jokes. I hope Noodle's OK after that massive dogpile!
I get that Noodle's passive-aggressive tone was annoying and counter-productive and he could have found a less obtuse way to bring this up. He is pretty goddamn annoying. Still, it seems like there is some rather extreme, Stormfront-grade homophobic **** being posted on your website that deserves to be brought to the attention of tptb.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
- if you have an issue with a thread somewhere, isn't it a lot more productive if you, as I suggested earlier:
The thing is, the mod of that forum already weighed in on it in the thread in question, and he seems casually bemused by it. I think Noodle's intention here -which he did a poor job of articulating 'cause he's kind of an ass-- was to get a second opinion/appeal from the management.
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