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Old 06-24-2012, 10:01 AM   #76
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:29 AM   #77
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Thanks advertiser-cheater guy.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:41 AM   #78
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2) In advertising it is common to use surprise in order to gain attention. It is always a question how far you go. "Cheating legally" is pretty obviously not pretending to do something illegal.
LOL. "Cheat" is 400x bigger than "legally" in the ad: [EDIT: I was fooled. I was basing this off of a Photoshopped version of the ad. The actual ad had "cheat legally" in consistently-sized font. -Mayo]

[EDIT: removed the Photoshopped image. -Mayo]


It's super that you're coming in here and being all contrite after people started complaining and you realized that you were about to get your ad pulled. You're an inspiration to the kids.

I went to your site. Your homepage has ridiculous **** like "The $100k Poker Coaching Program. Everything you need to learn, know and do in order to win $100.000 at Poker in less than 12 months!" That's absurd and promises (or at least implies) results that you damn well know are not possible for the majority of your potential clientele.

You also offer these two graphs with the following captions:


"Before Coaching: 100nl: Playing only fish, extremely bad losing regulars"



"After Coaching: Almost 500% better winrate vs '0 fish and 0 losing players in this sample.'"

The first graph shows winnings of $9,728.27 over 146143 hands. That's a $0.06657 per hand winrate. The second graph shows winnings of $7,008.61 over 30185 hands. That's a $0.23219 per hand winrate. 0.23219/0.06657 is 3.488. That means that the winrate in the second graph is 'bout 350% the winrate in the first graph, or 250% better. You claim it is "almost 500% better." That claim is completely false.

It also strains credulity to assert that this guy played 146,000 hands at 100NL without encountering a single winning player, and then followed that with 30,000 hands of 100NL without encountering a single losing player. (Presumably, your training doesn't cover game selection.)

It was at this point that I stopped looking around your website. Basically, your entire advertising campaign is, to put is VERY charitably, highly misleading. Your whole advertising campaign makes you look like a damn phishing site or something. It's unprofessional to the point of actually making me angry, and (as mentioned in this thread) reinforces every negative stereotype about online gambling. So, yeah, screw you.

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Old 06-24-2012, 10:54 AM   #79
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LOL. "Cheat" is 400x bigger than "legally" in the ad:
Wasn't that one of the photoshopped ones?
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:02 AM   #80
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And I've been singing this song for years (see this thread, and in particular this post), but here it is again: 2+2 allowing ads on their site without screening them is very dangerous, and when the as servers serve up sketchy dishonest ads, it makes 2+2 look sketchy and dishonest, which is the last thing that Mason, Mat, et al would want.

This is particularly the case with the ads that are presented in the "notice" boxes which are actually integrated into the layout of the forum itself (as opposed to the ads on the perimeter of the page, which are not within the pane of the forum vB software). Most people will view these "notices" ads as some sort of partnership or stronger endorsement on the part of 2+2, like Dids said. To allow ads to be served in that area without screening them is ridiculous.
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Wasn't that one of the photoshopped ones?
Oh, it seems like it was. That is my bad completely. I'm going to edit my post now.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:34 PM   #82
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"Cheating legally" is pretty obviously not pretending to do something illegal.
dude you cant just put "legally" after something and claim its all good

"ask me how to murder legally!!!!!"

you have to be a retard to think that ad is for anything but a site which is a scam at best
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #83
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Just go watch double jeopardy (the movie)
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:38 PM   #84
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Just go watch double jeopardy (the movie)
Good idea. I will acquire it via my legal copyright infringement techniques.
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:25 PM   #86
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I get it. You don't care if it makes you look like scumbags as long as the money's good. I can't even say that I blame you, per se. But... it does make you look like scumbags.
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I don't think you get it at all. I had nothing at all to do with it. I agree the campaign premise was bad. I am happy it was removed. I appreciate your points about vetting advertisers.
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:53 PM   #88
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I don't think YOU get it!

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Old 06-30-2012, 05:37 PM   #89
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Jeebus, ITT are all the people who are buying penis enlarging pills and sending money to Nigeria. Run to your nannies children and they'll keep you safe.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:18 PM   #90
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Jeebus, ITT are all the people who are buying penis enlarging pills and sending money to Nigeria. Run to your nannies children and they'll keep you safe.
*whoosh*

ITT people are dismayed to see folks that should be better than that trying to profit from it.
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