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06-09-2014 , 09:39 AM
This is the OP that started the exchange:
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Originally Posted by John Bland
Makes me sick to my stomach how it's ok to call people autists in 2014. As if our lives didn't suck already: difficulty making friends, finding a partner, gaining full-time employment; but to top that off we are now the only minority that it's ok to oppress. Hell, even gingers get cut more slack.

I know what it is though...oh yes. You see, you guys view us as sub-human and therefore people can't emphasise with us because we're just ******ed autists, not humans.

I wouldn't even put it past the mods to lock this thread for even suggesting that using autistic as a pejorative demonstrates a lack of decorum and empathy.

I long for the day that it's no longer ok to use this word as an insult, but you people are just going to laugh me off for even bringing this problem into question.

What a cruel and backwards society we live in.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
If you are aware you are autistic, you should be aware that when people yell at you for being aspy, that's your cue to shut the **** up, and not continue to asp it up about how you just don't understand.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
See? You're doing it. You don't understand, and you're lashing out. Cut that **** out, son. Instead of getting angry and demanding when **** happens you don't understand, you gotta remember that you have a handicap here, and like, double down on thinking it through.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL "I demand a right to offend and annoy people without social consequence because of my handicap"? GTFO.



Dude, you're just an *******. A stupid *******. Try to be better. Just try.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

This dude was a lonely and weird dude who discovered the diagnosis of autism and uses it as an excuse to avoid self-improvement. What a wonderful story to tell yourself, "of course I'm being a ****ty roommate, of course I'm bad at dealing with people at my job, I'm an oppressed minority(p.s. I'm actually a privileged heterosexual white guy)! I demand, uh, people be nicer to me for no reason"
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
They are not discriminated against. Like, getting fired from your customer service job because you are bad at it is not being discriminated against, even if the reason you are bad at it is autism. Nobody is like, secretly autistic, terrified that their boss will see them leaving autist bar or that they'll get autist bashed after a Pride parade.

It's legitimately offensive to actual oppressed minorities to compare the consequences of having is a mild personality disorder with actual oppression.



And again, bull****.

1) There's a spectrum here. There are people who are severely autistic, like unable to function in society autistic, and those people are disabled and generally incapable of work. Like people without verbal communication skills aren't in the same boat as a dude who doesn't do a good job reading body language even if both of them could probably be described as autistic.

2) People aren't picking autists out of crowd because of their trademark autistic hair and bullying them viciously. Obviously, don't bully anyone, but you're weirdly pretending like autism is unrelated to the unpopularity, like society just picked autism to exclude.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Hey, against, if you morons want to essentially claim that I'm being too mean to you because you literally cannot be expected to communicate like a normal human adult, that's fine. Granted. Conceded. Your mental disability is so great that it is an ******* move by me to read your posts and respond as if you were people.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL Jesus you're so illiterate.

You are a ****ing aspy pussy who doesn't know when to shut the **** up, though, let's be clear about that.

If you had gotten your ass kicked as a teenager a few dozen times I think that might have taught you not to run your ****ing mouth about every damn fool idea that crosses your mind. ****ing half the front page is halfassed threads you started cause you seen a thing and ran to the internet to find someone who would congratulate you for being smart for whatever hot take you developed.

"Derp I'ma tell the internet about how persuasive I find the concept of racial profiling"

"Derp I'ma tell the internet that I wanna call prostitutes prostitutes because I don't understand the fundamental point my teacher is trying to explain"

Christ almighty how much ****ing negative feedback do you need? How is it possible that you're not getting enough in the classroom, you need to come here too?
If this level of vitriol goes unchecked we become and ugly unwelcoming community where people with cognitive disabilities will not feel comfortable participating and expressing themselves. While the attacks were leveled against one specific person they can be broadly applied against all persons with disabilities.

I understand people in PU get an extremely wide berth to express what ever repugnant world views they may hold this goes beyond that. These are personal attacks that go way to far and the person that made them should be permanently banned.

link to thread

Last edited by mr.bum; 06-09-2014 at 09:51 AM.
06-09-2014 , 11:50 AM
He gets temp-banned 2-3 times per week, and has for quite a while.

He'll never be perma'd though
06-09-2014 , 11:51 AM
This thread can only get good.
06-09-2014 , 11:56 AM
**** got real.
06-09-2014 , 11:58 AM
I've been railing about this for years. No one cares. Last time I reported one of his posts, I ended up getting temp-banned instead of him.
06-09-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexM
I've been railing about this for years. No one cares. Last time I reported one of his posts, I ended up getting temp-banned instead of him.
lol
06-09-2014 , 12:16 PM
Fly is one of the best politics posters tho, generally recognized as a treasure
06-09-2014 , 12:26 PM
he's literally always mad
06-09-2014 , 12:42 PM
When you bold everything you emphasize nothing.
06-09-2014 , 12:44 PM
06-09-2014 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
He gets temp-banned 2-3 times per week, and has for quite a while.

He'll never be perma'd though
Wah?? How can anyone get temp-banned that often without getting perma'd at some point???? I don't get it. Maybe I'm not supposed to.......

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Fly is one of the best politics posters tho, generally recognized as a treasure
If this is an example of one of the best posters in politics, I'ld really hate to venture in there and find out who the rest are!!

Seriously, where is there anything of value in the quoted posts?

Lee
06-09-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovesantiques
If this is an example of one of the best posters in politics, I'ld really hate to venture in there and find out who the rest are!!
He was being sarcastic.
06-09-2014 , 01:00 PM
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How can anyone get temp-banned that often without getting perma'd at some point????
Politics uses temp bans more as time-outs than an escalating series of warnings.

I think Fly's out of line, but his behavior doesn't come close to the worst we've seen in PU and far more objectionable posters haven't been punished.
06-09-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
When you bold everything you emphasize nothing.
I was making it visually distinct from the op that was also quoted.

Last edited by mr.bum; 06-09-2014 at 01:10 PM.
06-09-2014 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Politics uses temp bans more as time-outs than an escalating series of warnings.

I think Fly's out of line, but his behavior doesn't come close to the worst we've seen in PU and far more objectionable posters haven't been punished.
Yeah, that's just straight up false. No one has been close to as objectionable as Fly in either Politics or PU without getting permaed. Only someone with very low levels of empathy would disagree.
06-09-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Politics uses temp bans more as time-outs than an escalating series of warnings.

I think Fly's out of line, but his behavior doesn't come close to the worst we've seen in PU and far more objectionable posters haven't been punished.
you've seen more overtly bigoted posting than fly's posts? directed at a person? like, if someone claims to be black, the racist posters are allowed to degrade and devalue that person using any and all pejoratives at their disposal?

- "when i say post less u post less u stupid f******* n*****"
things like that ^^^^ have posted before?
06-09-2014 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexM
He was being sarcastic.
And only partially succeeding, lol. That thread actually seems to go pretty well. Fly goes a little crazy (I'm calling it temporary insanity) and then a variety of posters come in and defend the OPs stance. It's raucous, but it is PU.

John Bland, when I hinted that you should take your cause to another thread, I wasn't really thinking of Unchained, there are other kinder places on 2p2. A bigger problem to me is that you seem to feel bad about being Aspey and you let people get to you through that. I used to tell my students that making fun of the way I thought was like saying, "Ha ha, you're really smart and good looking, ha ha!"

I'm proudly unique (and Non-neurotypical!) and it would be difficult for me to wrap my head around that being a flaw. (I know, I know, everyone else might...) Embrace your differences, we all have worth.
06-09-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.bum
you've seen more overtly bigoted posting than fly's posts?
SilverMan posts straight-up racist **** all the time in PU and he never gets banned.
06-09-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo
And only partially succeeding, lol. That thread actually seems to go pretty well. Fly goes a little crazy (I'm calling it temporary insanity) and then a variety of posters come in and defend the OPs stance. It's raucous, but it is PU.
I wasn't quite being sarcastic, as many people do regard fly as being one of the best politics posters
06-09-2014 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
SilverMan posts straight-up racist **** all the time in PU and he never gets banned.
Okay, so imagine if instead of making dumb general racist statements, he used his racism in personal attacks on other posters and then had half a dozen idiots white knighting him when people called him out for it. Fly is way worse than SM.
06-09-2014 , 01:24 PM
"rustled jimmies" meme. cool. hah....hah.

verbally attacking an autistic poster talking about his autism isn't even the most disgusting thing Fly posted last night IMO.

Fly doesn't like Ikes, and the feeling seems to be mutual. they get into heated political disagreements on the internet. can any disagreement get so heated that its OK with 2p2 for a poster to bring up your father, who you posted was recently diagnosed with skin cancer?

Fly to Ikes:

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Hey I'm still a better person than your Dad will ever be, so I got that going for me.
just to be clear: Ikes posts about his dad being diagnosed with skin cancer. 100% of the posts are empathetic and supportive. Fly tucks that little tidbit of information away, then he makes a post like that (and im 99% sure there's at least one more).

that's awesome, huh killa? totally OK with 2p2, right?

Fly gets into a disagreement with Ikes and makes the decision that the correct play is "now i'll remind Ikes that his Dad has cancer."
06-09-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
SilverMan posts straight-up racist **** all the time in PU and he never gets banned.
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Originally Posted by mr.bum
you've seen silverman being more overtly bigoted than fly's posts? directed at a person? like, if someone claims to be black, silverman degrades and devalues that person using any and all pejoratives at his disposal?

- "when i say post less u post less u stupid f******* n*****"
silverman posts things like that ^^^^ to black members of this forum????
fmp for you. pleases answer and quote him if the answer is yes. I'd be interested to see it.
06-09-2014 , 01:36 PM
OP, what did the mods say when you PMed them?
06-09-2014 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I wasn't quite being sarcastic, as many people do regard fly as being one of the best politics posters
I thought that Alex was talking about Fly's post in that PU thread, lol.
06-09-2014 , 01:40 PM
Oh no fly is super serious I think

      
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