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Worst NL bet/raise ever? Worst NL bet/raise ever?

04-06-2017 , 04:58 PM
I've played a lot of poker. A quick guestimate is 125-150k hands live and 1.5-2 million online. And this may quite possibly be the single worst bet/raise I have ever seen in a NLHE game (I've seen lots of amazingly stupid stuff in stud games, but that's another genre entirely).

This hand occurred last night in $2-5 NLHE and the hand history is below. If you have one that beats this, please post it.

Hero (BB): 82

Folds to SB (new to the table, but clearly loose, fishy): Says he never chops and throws in a call.
Hero: Checks.

Flop ($9, after rake): KK8

SB: Checks.
Hero: Checks (although will bet it occasionally as well).

Turn ($9): 4

SB: Checks.
Hero: Checks (intending to value most rivers).

River ($9): 7

SB: Checks.
Hero: Bets $10.
SB: Raises to $35.
Hero: Thinks the SB is fishy, but really shouldn't have Kx that much. Sigh-calls.

SB turns over 84 for the chop.

Hero pays $3 in rake.

Edit: Yes, I realize that the stuff from the good old days where guys on Bodog would open rip it from UTG+1 for 150BB with 76s in $1-2 games are worse bets in terms of EV in BB. I suppose I meant worst in terms of "bets with the least rationale"/"most egregious example of button clicking." Like, the aforementioned 76s open ship will at least be effective in stealing the blinds fairly often. I'm talking about bets that just *cannot* accomplish anything good / it is impossible to tell what the player could even be thinking.

Also, in this era, when "range" has become a standard part of the vocabulary of *bad* NLHE players, how does this happen with a guy who (apparently) regularly plays $2-5?

Last edited by RedClayCollector; 04-06-2017 at 05:25 PM.
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04-06-2017 , 05:20 PM
That's pretty bad. Did he think he made a better two pair, or three pair was good? It would've been great if you had 3bet shoved on him. I like to try to out nut job the nut jobs. Sometimes I'll go >5x it pre if the other guy won't chop. Maybe 1 out of 5 times it won't work out, but 80% of the time it works every time.

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04-06-2017 , 06:07 PM
He obviously doesn't like chopping. He even told you before the hand started.
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04-06-2017 , 06:10 PM
How can this possibly be the worst raise you've ever seen?????

The way the hand played you easily show up with worse than an 8. And his hand is underrepped slightly... jesus

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04-06-2017 , 06:44 PM
I pretty much use to make worse bets/raises on a daily basis.
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04-06-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by powrhau5
How can this possibly be the worst raise you've ever seen?????

The way the hand played you easily show up with worse than an 8. And his hand is underrepped slightly... jesus

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That's why I edited the post at the bottom. Like, in a standard spot, the guy is maybe getting a call from a 7. And maybe getting a chop to fold. But it's almost the perfect "everything better calls and everything worse folds" scenario.

Also, it's a river check-raise. I've probably forgotten some equally weird ones over the years, but river check-raises are generally pretty polarized. Yes, there are occasionally merges / thin value / bluffs with strong hands. I just honestly cannot remember (in nearly a million hands of NL) a (1) river check-raise, that was (2) shown down, where (3) I had absolutely zero idea what the motivation was.
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