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12-27-2009 , 03:24 PM
EZ answer folks.

Over past month he's made close to 1500/2000 after fpp/play at tables.

He loads up 80 to 120 games at a time.

He only plays hands/pays attention in the 20 to 40 tournaments that have been running the longest.

Early stages in $1 DONS can be sat out/auto folded and still be profitable here.

Goal is greater then 0% ROI, looks like this will net him 25 to 30 K a year at 1 dollar DONS ya'll

DUCY
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12-27-2009 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Greeneyes017
EZ answer folks.

He's a bot.
fyp
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12-27-2009 , 03:47 PM
All bots are machines, but not all machines are bots.
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12-27-2009 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverS@yDie
Why would PS or any site for that matter want to shut down a rake generating machine when most people won't know he's a bot.
And there are many more holes in their "security".........
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12-28-2009 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 8ROM
98k games in 1 year to make $1500? f that. That is an empty life. 2% roi in $1 games, i'd rather watch paint dry
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Originally Posted by Amaterasu
oh. then his bot averages about 230 games a day!!
FYP
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12-28-2009 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeneyes017
EZ answer folks.

Over past month he's made close to 1500/2000 after fpp/play at tables.

He loads up 80 to 120 games at a time.

He only plays hands/pays attention in the 20 to 40 tournaments that have been running the longest.

Early stages in $1 DONS can be sat out/auto folded and still be profitable here.

Goal is greater then 0% ROI, looks like this will net him 25 to 30 K a year at 1 dollar DONS ya'll

DUCY
Neato. He really is living the life then.

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Originally Posted by illdonk
All bots are machines, but not all machines are bots.
Or so we thought. This bot appears to be human.
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12-28-2009 , 03:48 AM
115K games now, 4.5K profit. WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE NOW.
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12-28-2009 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bbq
what i don't get is that someone who's willing to put in this amount of work could easily beat higher stakes if they just took the time to actually learn the game, it's strange how he doesn't realize that.

Probably just a bot though...
thats not true. a drowning parrot could beat $1 don
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12-28-2009 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
Obviously a bot. Bots don't care about making money.
That's just ridiculous. Why would anyone run a bot unless it made money ? If it played breakeven or losing poker you could just as well not run it at all and be better off.
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12-28-2009 , 09:25 AM
This is unreal, 120 tables??
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12-28-2009 , 11:18 AM
I have played about 8600 1$ DoN and been playing rs03rs03 at 319 times according to SharkScope. Apart I have a ROI of 6% and he has a ROI of 3%. Together I have a ROI of 11% and he has -4%. That can be explained that I only play 10 DoN at once and he plays a lot more.

I often wonder who this German player is. How old is he? Does he has a wife? Does he take a bratwurst and a beer sometimes? What car is he driving? Is he fat or thin?

If you look at his graph at SharkScope you will see that he was winning at a good rate. Then something happened. I would say that the same happend to me. The games get tougher and we had the invasion of the russians. Suddenly we had 2-4 russian at every table. And I noticed that some of then didnt play a hand against each other. That if not chipdumping. A typical hand would be like this. Russian1 has big stack and Russian2 has shortstack. Russian1 is pushing every hand with his bigstack but then suddenly when his Russianfriend with the shortstack is gonna be allin if Russian1 raises mini. THEN HE FOLDES. Hmmm.

Strange. Then next hand somebody else raises so the shortstack gonna be allin. Russian1 calls. Flopp AKJ. Now Russian1 goes allin with his bigstack. Guess what he has. Of course 32o.

So I decided to not play tables with max 1 Russian. As you know PokerStar does not tell what country the player is from so I had to search for their cities. Suddenly my ROI was back to more normal rate. Perhaps its because the Russians are so good but I've seen what they call me sometimes with and I pretty sure that they dont play there friends the same way. So now i stopped playing PokerStars. If they want to cheat they dont have the say what city they are from. I have seen players been from places like "My House", "#####!!".

Another thing I noticed is that there is a lot of Chinese players but I never seen 2 Chinese playes at the same table. Strange and I dont now why. They are multitabling a lot but never at the same table.

Excuse me for bad english.
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01-02-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
probably 2-3 guys living together sharing an account together?

I guess they have a masterplan to become rich (where they live) on the long run.

He opted in at sharkscope, don't think someone testing a bot would do this and would have his own aps to collect results.
His home town is Bremen - West Germany... so no Chinese Sweatshot if Hometown is right.

So how much is Supernova worth?
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01-02-2010 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RNauta
That's just ridiculous. Why would anyone run a bot unless it made money ? If it played breakeven or losing poker you could just as well not run it at all and be better off.
Exactly my point. Playing this many tables is far more cumbersome than running a bot. A person isn't going to waste time/energy to run a bot that isn't profitable, so why would they log that many hours if it wasn't very profitable. Clearly this is a rogue bot.
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01-02-2010 , 08:51 PM
also with the new stars VPP award system he will need to grind out 120482 of the 1.15 DoN - seems like he has switched from turbo to regular....
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01-03-2010 , 01:21 AM
confirmed bot.
I chatted to him in all 98,000 DoN's and he didn't respond once.
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01-03-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DJSHAD0W
also with the new stars VPP award system he will need to grind out 120482 of the 1.15 DoN - seems like he has switched from turbo to regular....
yeah he just lost half his vpps overnight

biggest victim of the equality reshuffle

time to retire

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01-03-2010 , 02:57 AM
boku needs to take lesson wiht him
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01-03-2010 , 03:20 AM
how many hours a day does he play?

I don't really think its possible for this to be a human.
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01-04-2010 , 03:24 AM
Maybe I'm just an idiot when it comes to bots, but why would it be a waste of time if his bot plays break even poker. Does it take that much time to adjust a bot? It's like owning a business where all you do is go in to pickup the paycheck. Go do whatever you want, and while you are doing that your computer made you $7K in a year.

And there are bots on ps, or at least used to be on the stud tables. No matter what time, I played stud there were some of the same players on the tables. All of these were Changle players, and you would see the same player on like 16 tables that ranged from $1/$2 limit stud to $30-$60 limit stud. Who the heck plays a bunch of $1/2 limit games, while playing $30/$60?
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01-04-2010 , 03:30 AM
100k SnGs is ridiculous.
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01-04-2010 , 01:15 PM
I started playing these last weekend purty heavy and he was on alot of the same tables. Every coment I sent to him including "WOW how do you play so many tables?" Never got a response back. He also is blocked in PS to search for players. If you check SS of current games he is on 15-20 at any givin time morning, day, night and evening 24 hours a day hes on. I did see him in BB turn a str flush and he did lead out betting. He has been on SS leader boards in 2008 and 2009 and nor 2010. I say smart bot or 2 or more players on account.
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01-04-2010 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
probably 2-3 guys living together sharing an account together?

I guess they have a masterplan to become rich (where they live) on the long run.

He opted in at sharkscope, don't think someone testing a bot would do this and would have his own aps to collect results.
My account is also visible on sharkscope, but I never opted in. Dunno how this happened, just making a point it might not have been him.
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01-04-2010 , 01:32 PM
how has this guy played 28k SnGs since christmas eve? That is like WTF total mind ****. I hope this guy does not kill himself, but I hope he stops soon, it cant be healthy. I dont think any1 would ever admit it if this was them.
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01-04-2010 , 01:54 PM
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01-04-2010 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sqwerty12
confirmed bot.
I chatted to him in all 98,000 DoN's and he didn't respond once.
observer chat off?
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