How about when the whole table is playing really bad ( ie limping AA and seeing flop 8 handed and holding up, betting $300 into a $30 pot with the nuts and some how gets called by worse) and they say stupid stuff like "I had a feeling this hand", while you are card dead an when you do hit you get sucked out on.

1/2 game and the straddle is 4. I suggest making it 5 to eliminate the change givin and whites in the pot. Most agree but theres always 1 guy who says "No. The straddle is 4."

Let the straddler decide. I play a game with $4, $5, or $6 straddles. Works nicely. Dealer just announces the amount and everyone gets it. Not in a casino though.

I especially like it when the $5 straddle gets a $10 double followed by a $20. I saw it go up to $40 once. I go all-in for $200 with a fairly good but not great hand (I forget exactly, probably AJ or something) knowing everyone except the very loose $20 and $40 straddlers are likely to fold and get to see 5 cards for stacks against a couple essentially random hands.

I can see how that would tilt you.

last weekend met this dude who i seriously wanted to punch in the face. i'm about as nice of a guy as you'll see at the table. i don't tilt/get angry when sh*t happens like getting sucked out on, or misplaying a hand (i get upset at myself but deal w/ it later), and am affable; however, even i have my limits.

here's a list of just the stuff i can remember from off the top of my head that he did:

1. does the bringing-chips-over-the-line-when-it's-not-his-turn-to-act thing to try to get somebody to stop betting w/ a marginal hand.
2. talks nonstop during the hand "oh, did you need that card?" "what do you have? you can tell me, it'll be our secret", "show me one card. i'll give you $10 for 1 card and $20 for 2" (playing 40/80 lol)
3. always tries to get a discount on his bb. i've never seen this before but if somebody raises his bb and it's back to him and he isn't going to play, he goes "half back?". and i was like, what? and he acted like my problem was that i didn't hear him. he goes, louder this time "HALF BACK?" and this time i say "i'm sorry, it's not that i didn't hear you, it's that i have no idea what you're asking me." he then explains that he'll fold if he can have 1/2 of the bb he posted back. i looked at him as if he had 3 heads and said no ofc.
4. nudges the guys to the left and right of him w/ his elbow to tell the unlucky souls about what he had the previous hand and how if he just called x bets he'd win the pot.
5. he takes FORFREAKINGEVER to play sometimes. for instance, he'll see that the action is almost on him. instead of a) looking at his cards, b) deciding what to do, and c) doing it, he'll engage in a conversation w/ the dealer or somebody who's sweating him or somebody on the rail and just talk until the dealer reminds him it's his action. then he'll look at his cards, look left and right, and then STILL turn around and talk to the rail/sweater person until the dealer again tells him to act. fortunately he doesn't do this consistently on every action, but he does it enough to where it's extremely annoying.
6. SLAMS chips down HARD on the table to make a huge noise even if he's just calling the bet. this is the borgata btw, and if you haven't played there, the high limit room's tables are nice and the chips are i think slightly heavier than other casinos' chips. either way, if you slam a stack down on the table, it makes a lot of noise and is v annoying. i'm assuming he thinks this makes him look badass or threatening.
7. tries every angle he can think of. i can't remember precisely but there was one that he did after which i was like "wow this guy is just the king of douches." it was really bad but i can't remember specifically what the issue/action/angle was.

all of this btw in the course of just a few hrs and some of the above was constant. i was sitting to his right for like1.5hrs until i finally got a seat change to across the table. i know that's bad for my wallet since i wanna be as close to him as possible, but i coulnd't take sitting next to him for another second

Why does that not surprise me. One time at the Borgata I ran into a drunktard who would play EVERY HAND loose and aggressive. He would pay off the sharks, bluff and show, call down super light, make idiotic moves and show, just every possible move a spewtard can make and talk all trash like he was the king of poker.

The worst part is he thought he was actually image-building/inducing action / tilt, when in reality, he was just really that bad. I caught him four times, three of those times he had 5 outs, and one time I had flush draw + gutshot + mid-low pair. The action was heavy. The river pairs the bottom card and he happened to have had it. 1 outter. 4 buy-ins gone

Here's what that hand looked like.

Hero: K9

Board: Q93A

Not the best turn for hero but against this monkey, there is no reason not to stack off.

River: 3

Villain:
J3

Never gonna forget that hand. Villain went on talking trash like he had just won the WSOP. Down $2000 I had enough. It was to a point where playing would be playing scared money because my trip's bankroll had been depleted.

Guess I should've just been a man and reloaded my last $350 something and starved if I lost. Still had my two bottles of Ensure to make the long drive back. What you think BBV?

shoulda folded the river.

also, i was referring to borgata limit pokerz, not nl.

Just saw an ad for a local tournament with a picture of a guy wearing a hoodie, shades, fancy watch, silver chain.

^ who wears chains these days lol, what is it 90's?

Thanks for this thread.
It is prolly the best thing that has happened for me in terms of controlling and eliminating tilt at the tables.

that will be $57

When one fish says to another, things like:

- Easy game, huh?
- Your line just didn't make any sense
- If it makes you feel any better, I wasn't folding
- You're not repping much
- Nuts!
- Value!
- I was committed
- Do you have an Ace?
- Will you show me if I fold

Players who use the poker table to become a comedian. Having fun while playing is one thing. Every single hand feeling the need to make the stupidest jokes everyone has already heard 10000 times is another.
Players in the same category as "Viffer"

I tilted when this happened in my first ever live casino Hold'em tournament and it continues to tilt me:

Two players go all-in on the flop. One guy needs runner-runner queens to win. A horrible move and a <1% chance of winning. Before the dealer deals the turn he announces casually that his cards are obviously coming. Which "of course" happens. And then tells everyone how good he is. Opponent exits the table in style.

It actually tilts me more when this happens to someone else. This and dealer abuse. Dealer abuse tilts me massively too. Leave them alone ffs.

dealers that don't pay attention to anything and then get upset when they get abused.

Short stackers should be required to give the rest of the table blow jobs before they start playing.

F**king disgrace to poker and the human race.

if it's +ev and legal, why do you care. just adjust your range against them and call it a day. why do nl players hate short stackers so much?

It's not that I care so much as it makes me tilt.
Hit and running, slow rolling, being anti-social at the tables are all legal.

yea but you can't take advantage of somebody hitting and running or being antisocial.

you CAN take advantage of short stackers and take their mobnies

Yeah I mean a shorstacker in a live game is typically good for about 5 rebuys, except they just give it away 20BB at a time making your life much easier. They call 10BB 3bets then just ship the flop first to act. Have no problem with them at all. Even better they'll suckout on like 3 players and be sitting almost full relatively quick and still play like they have $100 in front of them.

There are good shorties and bad shorties. Good shorties buy in for about 40-50 BB and almost quickly double/triple up. They get their money in when the SPR dictate and before you know it, they'll be sitting on a 3 BI stack, still playing optimal poker.

I remember buying in for 25 BB online and insta rat-hole once I get to 75 BB and open up a new table. It was a super TAG strategy and it used to earn me ton of rakeback on Eurolinx.

Bad shorties usually buy in for 20-40 BB, call 5 BB PF raises, shake their heads when they miss the flop, or when they have a pocket pair and one overcard hits, and just check and fold in frustration. They wear their cards on their faces, most exploitable players you can have. I've seen a player call $30 preflop with $60 behind and just check/fold flop. Next hand limps in the $10 straddle and just c/f flop. I've seen an old lady with $50 (I **** you not), flat a $25 raise preflop with AK and fold to a shove. Her comment: "I know he has a pair and I don't know if my ace or king will come". How do these people's parents ever got laid???

Anyways back to shorties. Sometimes they go on a roll and all of a sudden sit on 200 BB on a 3-4 way all in with aces/set/FD that got there.. What do they do? Ubber-nit it up. Walk around, make a few phone calls, chat up the waitress,.. come back to the table 45 minutes later with racks.

Tell me if I was wrong in this exchange:

I'm going to cash out at the cage. Woman working behind the counter says "Hi, how did you do today?"

Me: "Ah I did alright *sighing and in a tone that clearly signaled I wasn't interested in a conversation about it* (I lost $550 this day and didn't want to talk about it)

Woman: "Doesn't sound like you did alright"

Me, annoyed: "Well that's why you probably shouldn't ask gamblers in a casino 'how they did' because they often lose and don't want to talk about"

Woman, gaining attitude because I was annoyed: "Well you can enjoy life without gambling and losing."

Me, defending my pride: "Poker isn't gambling. I make a living playing - it's a game of skill."

Woman, visibly smug: "Whatever you say."

Me, livid: "You really need to check yourself."

Woman: "Sounds like a personal problem."

Me: "You really shouldn't be talking to customers this way. The customer is always right and you're the employee."

Woman, lacking all sincerity: "Have a nice day sir"

I expounded about the treating customer part several times and she just kept repeating "Have a nice day sir" until I walked away.

Sounds like she was unprofessional and you were a dick. I enjoyed the part where you told her not to ask gamblers how they did, followed by I'M NOT A GAMBLER.

honestly u were a dick more than she was unprofessional

Well when I was talking about gamblers I was giving her a general tip. Then I also made the point that what I do isn't gambling. Regardless, I think it's a bad idea for them to ask how you did.