Passive tilt, losing patience, need pep talk
02-23-2017
, 12:08 AM
So I don't normally post bad beat stories, in fact, getting eliminated out of a big tournament with JJ < 99 16 BB deep actually feel like a bit of a relief because you did absolutely nothing wrong.
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A
4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes J
T8
. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process.
This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A
4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes JT8. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process. This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
02-23-2017
, 12:12 AM
Quote:
So I don't normally post bad beat stories, in fact, getting eliminated out of a big tournament with JJ < 99 16 BB deep actually feel like a bit of a relief because you did absolutely nothing wrong.
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes JT8. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process.
This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A
4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes JT8. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process. This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
02-23-2017
, 12:18 AM
02-23-2017
, 08:53 AM
02-23-2017
, 12:52 PM
02-23-2017
, 05:15 PM
Quote:
So I don't normally post bad beat stories, in fact, getting eliminated out of a big tournament with JJ < 99 16 BB deep actually feel like a bit of a relief because you did absolutely nothing wrong.
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes JT8. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process.
This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
But how do you overcome passive tilt and agonizing table behavior by other players?
For example, you open in late position with a hand like A
4, get two callers and have position. The flop comes JT8. So now you've completely whiffed the flop and ready to just skip time and see new cards. Opponent, pauses, waits, stares at his stack, Hollywoods, cuts out chips 3 at a time past the betting line, cuts them out real slow before donk betting what is the size of the pot. I mean the whole wait can be very agonizing. Sometimes I just fold out of turn or even get off my seat for a walk during the entire Hollywooding process. This is just one example. Now this could happen hand after hand after hand. You're sitting at a weak passive table of fish and know that any top pair+ with a decent hand will get paid by worst easily on multiple streets.
KQs, 4 callers.. A42r.
AXs,.. two broadway cards.
AK/AQ.. TTx or 986'ish.
JJ/QQ.. AKx. You get the idea.
Like you really can't do anything, and before you know it, you've bled out almost an entire buyin 4-5 BB at a time.
My last such hand was A4hh OTB, which I called for 4 BB ($20), and the BB flatted.
Flop comes 932 one heart. BB checks, initial raiser c-bets $35 into $60, I flat and the BB goes AI for $200. Initial raiser folds and I snap punt. BB shows AA
100% this was a bad play on my part mathematically. But it was almost as if I was wiling to lose the additional $165 just to see two bingo cards rather than wait another 10-15 hands before I can play a hand (and probably get whiffed, Holloywooded, floated and barreled on what would be the worst possible turn/river card in the entire deck).
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