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Old 02-16-2012, 11:11 PM   #1
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Online poker is rigged...

Says this guy on his blog : http://tommeny.com/2006/12/22/the-bi...nline-poker-2/

But this is not the funny part, the 298 replies are just hilarious, a little preview for you :

Online poker is a total fraud and it is totally rigged. I found this message on another website which makes very interesting reading. To me it sums the whole thing up:

The Biggest Secret of Online Poker

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I am a Senior at the University of Washington with a major in Computer Science. For my Senior project I will be developing a computer program written in C++ that will emulate the algorithms used by the top online poker websites.

A close friend of mine who recently graduated with a PHD in Computer Science and undergrad in mathematics, is also a programmer, like me and a very good one at that. One of the best I have ever seen. He recently took a job at an online poker website (A very popular one) and worked on the advancement of 鉄tatistical Algorithm Analysis or so he was told.

Just recently he sent me an email and told me what he was doing and how this website is exploiting absolutley everybody that joins. And although he wasn稚 certain he believes all poker websites have similar algorithms in place to assure maximum revenue.

Here are a list of some of the variables they use to categorize players:

// Variables (Individual)
double account; // Length of account in days
double bankroll; // Total bankroll at current time
double buyIn // Buy-in at current table
int reBuys // Total number of re-Buys at current table
int deposits; // Total number of deposits
string gameType; // Type of game, ex: 6-max cash, mtt/sng, etc.
string player; // Players screen name
bool su; // Super User account used primarily for pros
bool newPlayer // New players < 7 days since account was created
vector cards; // Whole cards, ex: [5d,3s]

// Variables (Poker Tracker 3 style)
double VPIP;
double PFR;
double AF;

double W$WSF;
double WtSD;
double W$SD;
double BB100;

double FlopAF
double TurnAF
double RiverAF;

double AttSB;
double CBet;
double BRiver;
double FSB;
double CallPFR;
double FFB;
double CC;

These are only about 30 variables, he said they employ over 200 variables per individual.

Basically, he explained to me that there are a couple of goals that will net the most profit for any online poker website.

1. Keep the most players playing as long as possible.
2. Rake the most profit as possible.
3. Spread the money around as evenly as possible.
4. Allow players with account < X days to win a higher percentage of time.
5. Prevent (sharks) from taking all of the money from (fish).

Although, this looks like a lot he told me this is just the tip of the ice burg. They hire PHDs in Computer Science, Software Engineering and Mathematics to design and anylize absolutley everything. What he saw was only a glimpse into the data they use for flop selection turn and river determination and who wins and who loses. All to keep you playing at the table longer.

Well That's it for now let me know what you guys think and I will be back to share the progress on my program. But keep in mind, if a Senior in Computer Science can develop a program that accomplishes those
5 tasks above, then just imagine what a multimillion dollar company can do.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:21 PM   #2
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Re: Online poker is rigged...

Not sure why I read any part of that.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:22 PM   #3
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Re: Online poker is rigged...

wow those responses are GOLDEN
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:27 PM   #4
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Re: Online poker is rigged...

I'd love for Mr. PHD to bring this over to the probability forum and watch him get his head beat in LOL
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:27 PM   #5
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yeah you guys are 100% right. just like you were right about full tilt, ub, and every other cheater out there. its going to take somebody hitting you in ur head w/ the info before you believe it. or in some of u retards cases, having your bankroll jacked over and over by these sites. makes me happy to kno the pain you guys have had from these sites jacking you
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:29 PM   #6
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yeah you guys are 100% right. just like you were right about full tilt, ub, and every other cheater out there. its going to take somebody hitting you in ur head w/ the info before you believe it. or in some of u retards cases, having your bankroll jacked over and over by these sites. makes me happy to kno the pain you guys have had from these sites jacking you
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:39 PM   #7
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yeah you guys are 100% right.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:40 PM   #8
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vector cards; // Whole cards, ex: [5d,3s]
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:43 PM   #9
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thats a lot of effort to justify why u suck at 1 game
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:45 PM   #10
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lol.
Please tell me you have money "stuck" on Full Tilt and UB. That's what makes me LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:47 PM   #11
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Full Tilt, dude, that ****hole is pathetic. I watched Tom Dwan play there, and you know all he does is bet and raise until the other guy folds. But the other guy never has anything???????????
loooool at these comments
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:48 PM   #12
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Please tell me you have money "stuck" on Full Tilt and UB. That's what makes me LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:49 PM   #13
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Please tell me you have money "stuck" on Full Tilt and UB. That's what makes me LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love the thread you just started LMFAO, no wonder you're a bitter little boy.

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Old 02-16-2012, 11:52 PM   #14
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another dork who has been on here since 2004 who is dork buddies w/ all mods. plz ban him? isn't that what u do when u dont like posts?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:53 PM   #15
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or r u another dorky mod who ban all ppl who disagree w/ the mainstream dorks of this forum?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:56 PM   #16
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or r u another dorky mod who ban all ppl who disagree w/ the mainstream dorks of this forum?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:57 PM   #17
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wow dude thats gross
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #18
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or r u another dorky mod who ban all ppl who disagree w/ the mainstream dorks of this forum?
yes, but why are you angered sir?

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Old 02-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #19
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yes, but why are you angered sir?

- NMHU.
hello sir I am told you are the man to confirm if somebody is truly mad or not.

Is op mad?
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:01 AM   #20
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hello sir I am told you are the man to confirm if somebody is truly mad or not.

Is op mad?

I therefore confirm that the original poster IS MAD AS ****. HE PUNCHED THE WALL LIKE
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:10 AM   #21
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self ban, need therapy
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:12 AM   #22
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wow dude thats gross
Thats actually quite clever. Even more clever is how you convince yourself to ban ppl for posting things, and not for somebody making a post look like mine when its not. Pretty cool
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:17 AM   #23
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lol@this guy
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:33 AM   #24
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Sick daily post count OP
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:49 AM   #25
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