***Official $10000 in a month at NL 25 Challenge Update Thread*** - Page 201

skreemer7 · 05-31-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rothko

possible that someone was asking about it again, so i explained it. patent pending? your medal is in the mail.

thanks.

so thick.

orangepeel · 05-31-2008, 01:14 AM

bet on himself 20k to win 50k, but he should also against himself 40 k to win 20k---> free money

Jimmy Vulmer · 05-31-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by equalsfive

decently buff.

funny

**goofyballer** · 05-31-2008, 01:43 AM

Ok, all but 34 hands played with a guy named " Mr Smith" (note the space in front) which seem to be giving HM trouble are imported. As of 10:30am:

The top green line is the total winnings, the thinner one below indicates that he's running slightly hot

Doing well though!

f3nix35 · 05-31-2008, 01:45 AM

Is it normal to have such a declining non-showdown winnings line?

runout_mick · 05-31-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Ok, all but 34 hands played with a guy named " Mr Smith" (note the space in front) which seem to be giving HM trouble are imported.

Can you manually edit those hhs and delete the space?

**MicroBob** · 05-31-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BSman12

Attn: Microbob

I would be interested in your response to this because I'm a little offended that you suggested I am one of the stupidest members of 2+2 of all time.

I said it was one of the stupidest things I have read.

If you are hedging against yourself with different odds or to get the odds adjusted then that can indeed help you get better odds for your money. Something like 2.2:1 instead of 2:1 in WCG's case perhaps if he could somehow get the action to come in on him from someone else or if he sets up fake accounts to bet against himself maybe? I don't know.

But the original idea was more along the lines of "Why bet against yourself? Why not bet some of it FOR yourself and therefore lessen your risk?" or some nonsense like that which is NOT the same as trying to get the odds to swing somehow or whatever.

In a straight-odds setup betting $60k for yourself and betting $40k against yourself is EXACTLY THE SAME as just betting $20k for yourself.

He gets to pick how much to bet against himself so whatever amount he's comfortable with is what he does. If he wanted to lessen the risk he doesn't need to bet against himself. He just doesn't need to bet as much in the first place.
LDO.

I honestly can't believe I'm having this conversation but whatever. It's kind of late and I'm not entirely sober and I guess I'm kind of used to explaining the most obvious things in the world to people who somehow aren't quite 'getting it'.

fozzy71 · 05-31-2008, 01:49 AM

Goofy - u can edit the HM config file to change the color of the all-in EV line.

C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config\HoldemManager.config

Go down near the bottom:

Code:

<setting name="GraphShowdownWinnings">False,Blue,1,Solid</setting>
<setting name="GraphWinnings">True,DarkGreen,1,Solid</setting>
<setting name="GraphAllInEv">True,Magenta,1,Dash</setting>
<setting name="GraphNonShowdownWinnings">False,Red,1,Solid</setting>

I edited my Winnings line to be 1 pixel, you may want to leave yours as 2 pixels. I also changed my EV line from darkgreen to magenta, so it's easier to distinguish.

*Might as well turn off the SD/Non-SD lines when you post the graphs, IMO. We know what those things will do while 24 tabling FR uNL.

BSman12 · 05-31-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

I said it was one of the stupidest things I have read.

If you are hedging against yourself with different odds or to get the odds adjusted then that can indeed help you get better odds for your money. Something like 2.2:1 instead of 2:1 in WCG's case perhaps if he could somehow get the action to come in on him from someone else or if he sets up fake accounts to bet against himself maybe? I don't know.

But the original idea was more along the lines of "Why bet against yourself? Why not bet some of it FOR yourself and therefore lessen your risk?" or some nonsense like that which is NOT the same as trying to get the odds to swing somehow or whatever.

In a straight-odds setup betting $60k for yourself and betting $40k against yourself is EXACTLY THE SAME as just betting $20k for yourself.

He gets to pick how much to bet against himself so whatever amount he's comfortable with is what he does. If he wanted to lessen the risk he doesn't need to bet against himself. He just doesn't need to bet as much in the first place.
LDO.

I honestly can't believe I'm having this conversation but whatever. It's kind of late and I'm not entirely sober and I guess I'm kind of used to explaining the most obvious things in the world to people who somehow aren't quite 'getting it'.

ok good point. the only reason I would think of doing what i am suggesting is that you could spread the action to way more people this way without increasing the net amount you would possibly lose.

kiddcheckers · 05-31-2008, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by johnfortune1000

dont fool yourself.....

as i have said before, as someone who has been around high stakes pool/poker for some time, this happens all the time. there is always "business" going on in the background. The net effect is that the primary (the person in the bet) and their steaker can clear 10ish percent (just like a bookie) either way on the bet.

happens all the time....now i dont think that is happening here at all....BUT this would be an easy bet for him to have money steaked against him (the effect is to inflate the odds so your true risk is exponentially lower, sometimes, as I said above, to the point that it reverses to give you a +% on any bet).

That's a lot of work for a pie IMO.

Clearing a small piece of the action isn't a win enough, seems like I'd rather just stick to playing a higher level and having a life.

Again, this is poker, you want to make more you play a higher level. EZ game.

rothko · 05-31-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BSman12

ok good point. the only reason I would think of doing what i am suggesting is that you could spread the action to way more people this way without increasing the net amount you would possibly win.

crux