Everythings ok IMO, people are ******ed.

Busted OP, filthy liar, it was good while it lasted though.

Who exactly is fiiiish in the story?

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Tried smsing you (if this even is who I think it is?). Like is said in the note before the vegas bit I wasn't sure about details and that I might have to edit the bit later after checking from you. Can you please tell which part of this wasn't true? I remember everything pretty well, the only thinhs I weren't sure of were like distances and dates/times etc.

Even if my memory is slightly letting me down which is understandable given it was 3+ years ago and I was drunk I openly invite you to confirm which part of this wasn't true:

1. The night before (the supposed) main event
2. Treasure island, ordering trays full of drinks, vodka bottle on the table
3. Strip club, young pimp with a gun, bathroom incident, running away to that random casino as a result
4. Bellagio early in the morning, bag of weed bought from that dude, meeting the mag editor+photographer in the lobby and waving the bag around, people queueing from breakfast etc, me passing out on your hotel room floor and vomiting all over
5. The Mirage (or some other casino maybe?) roulette incident

This stuff is basically the entire story and it's just impossible I could have any of that wrong cos I remember everything so clearly.

This is the storyline exactly the way I remember it and the only things I may have wrong are details somewhere inbetween which I wanted to ask you about but you weren't around. If you think there's ANYTHING wrong in the actual storyline I'm going to stop writing right now but I don't think that's the case??

Anyway I'm eagerly waiting for you to get back to me either itt or sms. I'm on my cell so it's hard to type right now

Edit. I didn't know bap even had a 2p2 account so idk if that's actually him and he hasn't replied to my sms when I tried to confirm but it's possible that's him for sure. He didn't particularly like being a part of my 08 main event story when I finally admitted to not having played etc but it's pretty weird to get crazy over this now that I'm actually trying to get the facts straight. I mean the entire point of this thread was to publicly tell my whole story without leaving anything out or adding anything for the first time, I'd have to be an idiot to actually intentionally get something wrong, especially in the magnitude you described.

Alright not a level. Keep it coming chuck. I believe you

Haters and non believers already showing up. Let the man write his stuff.

Even if it were complete fiction (which I don't believe) it's still an amazing read! Everyone remembers things slightly differently but definitely when smashed in Vegas! He did post a caveat before the Vegas part anyway! I'm still waiting expectantly for next part of the story!!

+1

to kugr84 (I can elaborate more later when I'm not on my cell)

I didn't show aces I wasn't closing the action. But his quads got shown down it was (iirc) quads over boat over boat or quads over boat over straight or something. Again I can't remember it card to card, it was played years ago and it's only itt to illustrate how BAD I was it was an awful laydown

Dimitri1978 is a common backer (see mp) and he's been scammed by his horses. I think he just spotted one of the scammers posting itt posting under a new alias or something and wanted to point out that the person is a douchebag. Idk; i've never worked with him and don't know him at all but feel free to pm him and ask.

Like I said I don't have graphs outside sngs pre 09 or end of 08 (I may have got pt in like october 08 I can check later). There's nothing I can do about it really. I have graphs post 09 on which is 75% of the story and like 90% of my lifetime winnings.

In 08 there was exactly ONE tournament I didn't play due to roulette that was the main. Back then I hated tourneys and didn't even want to play them. I've played a gazillion tourneys since 09 oh which I ofc have prove on and I have a lot of fun stuff coming from 5ks and 10ks I've played.

08 was the year I basically started my poker career and it's not like I made a load of money or anything. Also to truly understand the softness of the ongame games you would've had to be there. Like I said the best I beat at a good sample size was 1/2 or 2/4 and both were softer than nl50 hu is today, and like I said many times I also ran really hot.

And my roulette flip habits are pretty well known in Finland it won't be hard to find someone to back them up.

This guy is obviously just a random hater without a clue what actually happened, I knew it immediately after reading his post. Keep the updates comin, OP...

I have a feeling it's actually BAP... idk why, maybe it could be a random guy and bap sure isn't getting back to me but something just tells me it's him. I'm just really really trying to figure out what I could possibly have got so wrong that he'd be that pissed off about. I just re-read the entire thing, and outside the things I clearly said I wasn't sure of I just can't think of anything. From Bellagio onwards I remember everything clearly, especially waving the bag and what happened afterwards. I remember eveything pre that strip club, the hazyest part is def that. But I remember the guy with a gun, even what he looked like, I remember the bathroom incident and the running away SO clearly. Like I said in the post I still am not 100% sure how pissed he actually was (like the toilet thing could've been anything between a hug and wrestling move) but I know we were both uncomfortable. I remember he knew all the strippers and acted like he owned the place (edit: I didn't mean to say he ACTUALLY owned the place in case you read it wrong) but what I may not remember correctly is if he was just a drug dealer or if he had something to do with prostitutes too. What I wanted to ask about was mainly stuff revolving around the strip club happenings as all I remember is kind of the highlights of it, and I don't for example have any idea if we were there for 30 minutes or 3 hours. I don't have a very clear image of the conversations with the guy with a gun, I just know he got heaps pissed off at us at some point when we tried to stop him drinking out drinks and then he showed the gun and we wen't to a new table letting him have the drinks. What we talked about pre that is mainly and educated guess, I just remember girls and drugs being offered. And maybe you have a clearer memory of his actual pissed-offness, I remember us bring scared/worried about the gun and backing off. Yeah maybe I should have waited for your confirmation but you weren't online and everyone was going crazy asking for more posts, so I was like what the heck there's no way I could have got the main storyline wrong, I'll just edit the bits and pieces later. And that's why I also clearly stated that in the beginning of the post.

But yeah if it was actually you please get back to me and I encourage you to do it publically, feel free to fix anything you think was wrong.

Kinda sucks but I think that BAP is going to Dublin today for unibet open and I'm going to Barcelona for the EPT tonight and won't be able to post installments after tonight for a week so if he doesn't get back to me in time I won't be able to post the bit I have almost ready (9) in time. I sure as hell ain't posting it as long as there's any doubt any of this may somehow be untrue.

Awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing.

edit. Heaps of typos up there thanks to being on an old cell phone with no touchpad, can't be arsed to fix

and no, I also didn't spend two years building 2p2 credibility, making tons of actions in the marketplace and becoming friends with 100+ poker players from here just to post a FAKE story I would 100% sure get caught of. I still have some haters in Finland and everyone knows my 2p2 name so the chances of me getting away with it are exactly 0. I mean you'd have to be delusional to think I'd want to do that especially as it's not like I'm getting paid for this and I'm just writing this on my free time.

Having that said, bap (if fiiiish turns out to be him) has a crystal clear rep and I believe he would also never post anything that wasn't true. All I'm saying is that if fiiish was him it's just a misunderstanding and he's heaps overreacting. Oh well gotta wait for him to post which hopefully happens soon.

Just got online, based on bap's posting history that's 100% him. Dude can you seriously come back online and make an actual post and comment on everything I wrote above, thanks

met miikka in alicante, after dinner and lots of sangria we went to a cocktail bar. before we had sat down he had ordered 25 cocktails for 5 of us

legit hero!

haha, good times! just wait about 20 installations and I'll get there.

Hi there Chuck.

Your story is truly amazing and captivating for sure.
However I would like to know how you were able to do roulette flips for $5k when your all time winnings were like $20k combined regarding the global aliases you gave us?

Also, making flip bets with your friends is kinda...
Btw, you said your mother was a doctor.
Well my whole family are doctors of varying specialties and I can tell for sure poker is not on their "good" list so to speak. Did she agree with your lifestyle at the time?
Also, you are telling us that you are well drunk almost the whole week. The following question is : do you smoke too?

I think your whole story is just so far-fetched that it's almost unbelievable.

And why bother to post here YOUR story while you are looking to score a book contract, you are basically leaking your stuff out.

I am still wondering what your agenda here is.

gtfo

**** the Hangover. Make Chuck's story into a film

Okay I just spoke to fiiiiiiish on the phone.

I asked what were the things he disagreed me with, and he enlightened me about some stuff. He says he's in Dublin about to play golf, and that he'll stop by in this thread later tonight or tomorrow the latest to confirm. He also still wanted me to get his name deleted from this thread, so please everyone just refer to him as fiiiiish from now on, I'll try to get a mod to clean the thread.

So:

1) The night in treasure island and the strip club night were two different nights. I had completely forgot about this / the nights were somehow mixed in my head. So the true course of action was something like this:

I meet fiiiiish on the night before my supposed ME. We go out drinking and cash gaming, do it until the wee hours, and I pass out in his room after vomiting around. After a couple of hours I leave saying I'll go play the ME.

What I had entirely forgot about that at this stage I was still actively trying to flip my way for enough funds to play the ME, so I didn't yet come up with the "I busted on the first level" story. Instead I told them that I decided to change my starting day from 1B to 1D. And then after 1D after I had failed to collect the funds and had lost just more flipping I came up with the story.

The strip club night happened a couple of nights later (not sure if it was the night before my supposed day 1D) and I believe we were drinking in TI or somewhere else before that as well.


2) He had won a package from NoIQ, but his room wasn't under NoIQ, it was under his friend. He said that he doesn't remember the leaving the pot in the room as a tip conversation (although I still do, but whatever), and it did end up with his skater friend.

3) He remembers the strip club stuff differently. He said that after we had a table full of drinks, the guy showed up telling us to GTFO as it was his table, and started drinking our drinks (he didn't ask first). I, being drunk and overestimating my fighting skills, said that we weren't going nowhere and basically told him to gtfo. Around this time he flashed the gun, and my friend apologized to him for me, saying that I was just drunk. After this we went to a new table letting him have the drinks. My friend doesn't remember him trying to deal either drugs or prostitutes, I remember at least the first part.

Then we went to a new table, spent X amount of time there, and at some stage I had come out of the bathroom yelling we need to run, and we had ran away to the nearby casino like I said. I had been extremely out of my mind, asking him to smell my finger (suggesting it had been inside a woman, which it hadn't been fwiw, I have no idea how I came up with this I was pretty out of my head), and then only later told what really happened with the drug dealer guy.

Additionally, he said that there were random small bits and pieces he remembers differently.

So yeah he'll come to confirm this but it'll likely take some time. I'd once more like to underline that the exact reason I said before posting that I might have to edit the post later because I'd have to ask my friend for details is this. It was an extremely blurry trip and it was hard to remember everything less than a week afterwards, it's been 3+ years now and I was too wasted for the entire Vegas trip to remember clearly. I was sure about the key points in the story (dude with a gun, pot in bellagio, main event fail, meeting these people etc), so I thought it would be fine to post the story without confirmation, as the changes I'd have to make later would be fairly minor. It turned out they were a bit bigger than minor but I don't still feel that none of that would've been actually fabricated (at least on purpose).

What do you guys think? If and when he confirms this am I still legit to continue? If you like I can also try and get the maximum amount of witnesses/graphs/whatever for everything, kind of like a wikipedia list of sources etc. Everything that happened in 2008 was really just a drop in the ocean compared to what would happen later on and I can prove like 98% of everything 2009 onwards.

I have no agenda.

Like I said I was a massive degen, I'd do a $5k roulette flip if I had $6k on me.

I played sngs under different aliases than cash for the most part and I'm pretty sure 08 Ongame games weren't tracked. Actually I don't know if they still are. I talked to a couple of regs back then, and I have a couple of them on msn, so if you insist I can probably get them to post itt to confirm I actually played 1/2-3/6 hu back then and did reasonably well. The problem is that idk if they are 2+2 or not so it might be just new aliases. I also posted some hands from up to NL1k on my blog that I'm sure people still remember.

My screennames in 08 for cash included at least: salty_water, LRonHubbard, tooyoung2die, and I had one other that I'm struggling to remember but if I go through my old emails and accounts I'm sure I'll find it.

I've never smoked apart from a few random times. I think the combined amount I've tried any drugs including bananas is less than 10.

My mother hated my poker hobby for a long time, and when I turned "pro" she went nuts. She's fine with it and really supportive now, she's only been for about a year (ever since I started doing well and got rid of my degen habits). The thing is that she had to move out of town in 08 because my grandma got cancer and she was gone for basically all of my heyday so she didn't witness almost any of it.


PS. If anyone has any questions regarding my credibility, or would like me to prove anything, or would like to have any questions that I could possibly answer to back up my story, please go ahead. I'm going to be around for the next ~6 hours or so and then I'm going to go radio silent for a few days. My gf is with me in Barcelona until next monday and then I have the EPT and side events on that week so I really don't know when I'll have time to get back to actively writing.

Ofc you can continue!

Can everyone just calm the **** down!

@Chuckster
Please continue your writing. I think most people accept there will be some minor errors as part of anyones degen story. Maybe you should be a little careful with naming people, but this is a Forum thread. It's not pretending to be a major piece of journalism.

Also, you need to accept that following a number of recent issues in 2+2, people are perhaps a little wary of trusting everything that gets written. So there will be some doubters. Respond to the reasonably framed questions, but don't fall into the trap of trying to reason with everyone.

Just keep writing, I think it's going pretty well so far, I think this latest hiccup is actually a good thing to provide a little perspective here.