Lol yes because live 2/5 poker is about friendship & brotherhood above making money

epic thread. lol'd about 40 times. that was a pretty scummy thing to do though

All he did was bluff! Not his fault the guy decided to show an ace! He was not asked to do that. So if ur in a hand & suddenly villan shows, you are obligated to check down? U guys are nuts.

3-year old bait and the fish are still biting.

Its like a fine wine. Its just gets better with age

hopefully the wine never gets as scummy though as the piece of **** OP. I bet his mother is sad that she wasn't able to raise him better

Sounds like the title of a country music song.

Also: OP showed no class with that move.

Just realized OP was from 2012, but definitely not a scumbag move from OP's part since villain in the hand made his own decision to give the extra information to OP.

how can you even sleep at night siding with this scumbag? Poker doesn't need scummy people like you two

I don't see what the date of OP has to do with anything, it was scummy then and it was scummy now.

It's just like check-raising, even though it's a 'legal' move that a lot of young internet punks use that doesn't mean the belief that it's a scummy move has lost its merit. OP strikes me as the kind of player who check-raises, so he deserves condemnation for his scummy play even three years after the fact.

I have no problem with check raising - that is part of poker. but what op did is not a part of poker and I can't believe you would even compare the two.

Can the people who share the view that op is a scumbag answer the following questions??

What is to stop people wanting cheap show downs showing cards to effectively 'force' the op in to giving it to them??

What if OP had the nuts? He would be sitting there trying to find the best way to get the money in then villain shows his cards and now it is bad etiquette to bet. Is this acceptable to try and deny the villain the opportunity to bet with the best hand??

What if OP 'needs' to win the pot. He decides he has to bluff. Is it fair to be denied the opportunity giving him no way of retrieving the money he has invested??

What if OP hits his draw. He loses if he misses and can't be paid if he hits??

Why are people 'scumbags' for having a different opinion??

How many times has the word scumbag been used in this thread??

Ok.

It is only acceptable when you and your opponent have been "playing together all night." Not showing your opponent the same gentlemanly courtesy is a scumbag move.

Doesn't matter if OP has the nuts. Scumbag gonna scumbag.

OP would only bluff in the spot if he is a scumbag. He bluffed. Therefore OP is a scumbag.

Thankfully the poker gods didn't reward this scumbag. He should lose if he misses and lose if he hits. Only fair outcome.

Because they are defending OP and therefore are scumbags themselves (just like OP).

Not enough. At least once more:

You, sir, are a scumbag.

I can't believe we still have to go through all this stuff in detail but OK...

You seem confused. In the OP, it was the villain who had the best hand. OP did not have the nuts. If he did, he would be forced to bet, this is a rule just look at the Robert's Rules of Tournament Poker - if it's checked to you with the nuts on the river you must bet, otherwise you are given a penalty. Nothing happened that would "deny the villain the opportunity to bet with the best hand", and your hypothetical question makes no sense.

Nobody 'needs' to win the pot. If they're playing a gentlemen's money game, we should assume they can afford to lose. Poker =/= roulette. Are you implying that OP, in addition to being a scumbag, is a degenerate?

See my answer to question 1.

'Tis not the difference of opinion, 'tis the content of one particular opinion that OP is not a scumbag which makes his defenders ITT scumbags.

Where did you learn to use two question marks all the time? And as for the last question, kindly do the leg work yourself if such trivial things are so important.

^^^ gets it

Ok I agree. OP is a scumbag.

But would you rather be a scumbag or a ******??

I am a scumbag!!

Took me a few days but now i get it

Glad to hear it. You were coming across as a huge scumbag for defending OP the last few days but good to hear you've come around.

I seriously don't know how some people sleep at night thinking that OP is *not* a scumbag. SMH

More likely is you're both.

Take your scumbaggery to a different game. Poker doesn't need shady people like you

I haven't used that word.

Until now.

Scumbag.

I mean, they were "playing together all night"!

One time I went with my brother to a poker room and we sat at separate tables and the please caught on fire. I only had time to save one person. I really do love my brother and I miss him but this other guy and I were playing together all night.

Pretty sure the dealer in this hand is the biggest scumbag of all. He allowed scumbag op to bet the river after his buddy showed him the Ace.

I have to believe the dealer must not have seen. can't imagine he would have allowed it otherwise

OP is a cumbag