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The hand that made me quit online poker The hand that made me quit online poker

10-12-2016 , 09:07 AM
To say I have been running bad for the past three months would be the understatement of the year for me

I have played more than 4 million hands online since 2008, and my BB/100 hovered around 1.8 (I average around 10K hands per week on poker stars, full tilt and party poker combined). If i take 100,000 hands at a time, my peak was around 11BB/100 when i was running hot, and maybe -2.4BB/100 when on bad runs

My BB/100 for the past 2 months has been a brutal -18.2/100 (and I am taking about 100,000. At the stakes I am playing that cost me around $14,500. My all in Equity for the same period is +$1,200!!

Maybe I was due for a run like this. But in the past 3 months i started noticing things I did not see before consistently happen, and I am talking about completely illogical plays that defy logic.

Plays that really felt like someone knew what the whole card were, or in the cases of all-in, knew what was coming.

I know this sounds like "Someone on bad run now thinks the game is rigged" kinda of scenario. But what if the game did actually become biased, I am not saying the sites are doing it, but what if people found a way to crack the RNG, or found some exploitable security glitch, or all these add-on softwares are feeding certain people the hands, or or or....

Everything written as a program is eventually exploitable and has a flaw. These fold and move on games are the perfect ground to exploit this

These were most evident in all-in situations.

The hand that did it

200NL Fastforward on PartyPoker
CO makes it $5 pre, I make it $15 with 5d4d from the BB, CO calls (very loose agro but not disastrous
Flop is Ad 8s 2d (flopped a Straight flush draw)
I bet $23 into $33pot, CO calls
Turn 7s
I bet $56 into $79 pot (played with this guy many times before and he never slow plays big hands, so thought I can get him off anything here), CO calls
River is Qh
I go All-in for $106 deciding to continue to represent AA or a least AQ
I get snap called with....
...
....
.....
wait for it
......
.......

6s5s

The 6 actually plays and I lose a $400 pot

I had to reply the hand on Poker Tracker at least 10 times to believe it

This was just the last hand in series of wierd plays
After that, I withdrew all the funds from my account
Purged my Poker Tracker DB, uninstalled all the software
Requested self exclusion from the sites (to ensure I don't go back again)

This game on these sites (especially the Zoom or Fastfoward) is no longer playable

I guess you can say maybe this was a mis-click, but its just too consistant to believe
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10-12-2016 , 09:55 AM
lol if you think anyone will read beyond the first sentence
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10-12-2016 , 10:00 AM


You just gotta fold river OP, don't even check it to him, just fold, you're already owned at that point.
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10-12-2016 , 10:04 AM
Lolsample, 4 million hands is not enough to beat the variance bro
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10-12-2016 , 10:36 AM
@Labax
Considered OP folding
But what do you make of the call with 6 high by villain?
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10-12-2016 , 10:40 AM
I made a BBW sandwich with ur mum and sister out of it
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10-12-2016 , 10:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FWWM
lol if you think anyone will read beyond the first sentence
I read the entire post and do not automatically dismiss his concerns.
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10-12-2016 , 11:02 AM
That's why you have 70 posts in ten years. Still busy reading
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10-12-2016 , 11:36 AM
I actually read that but the dumbest thing you did if you truly believe something fishy was happening is delete your database. All you have now is a cool story bro.
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10-12-2016 , 11:38 AM
Also villain likely misread their hand as a straight.
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10-12-2016 , 01:00 PM
Isnt cool story bro banned?
Also imo 4 million sample sucks u gotta play like 5678943327 gazillion hands to crack the variance
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10-12-2016 , 01:28 PM
Plays 4 million hands and then loses it in a 100k hand sample, which is less than 3% of lifetime hands. What a pussy.
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10-12-2016 , 01:39 PM
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10-12-2016 , 02:03 PM
that sounds like a superuser, but wtf was your raise in the bb for?
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10-12-2016 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FWWM
That's why you have 70 posts in ten years. Still busy reading
touché
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10-12-2016 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthwalker
To say I have been running bad for the past three months would be the understatement of the year for me

I have played more than 4 million hands online since 2008, and my BB/100 hovered around 1.8 (I average around 10K hands per week on poker stars, full tilt and party poker combined). If i take 100,000 hands at a time, my peak was around 11BB/100 when i was running hot, and maybe -2.4BB/100 when on bad runs

My BB/100 for the past 2 months has been a brutal -18.2/100 (and I am taking about 100,000. At the stakes I am playing that cost me around $14,500. My all in Equity for the same period is +$1,200!!

Maybe I was due for a run like this. But in the past 3 months i started noticing things I did not see before consistently happen, and I am talking about completely illogical plays that defy logic.

Plays that really felt like someone knew what the whole card were, or in the cases of all-in, knew what was coming.

I know this sounds like "Someone on bad run now thinks the game is rigged" kinda of scenario. But what if the game did actually become biased, I am not saying the sites are doing it, but what if people found a way to crack the RNG, or found some exploitable security glitch, or all these add-on softwares are feeding certain people the hands, or or or....

Everything written as a program is eventually exploitable and has a flaw. These fold and move on games are the perfect ground to exploit this

These were most evident in all-in situations.

The hand that did it

200NL Fastforward on PartyPoker
CO makes it $5 pre, I make it $15 with 5d4d from the BB, CO calls (very loose agro but not disastrous
Flop is Ad 8s 2d (flopped a Straight flush draw)
I bet $23 into $33pot, CO calls
Turn 7s
I bet $56 into $79 pot (played with this guy many times before and he never slow plays big hands, so thought I can get him off anything here), CO calls
River is Qh
I go All-in for $106 deciding to continue to represent AA or a least AQ
I get snap called with....
...
....
.....
wait for it
......
.......

6s5s

The 6 actually plays and I lose a $400 pot

I had to reply the hand on Poker Tracker at least 10 times to believe it

This was just the last hand in series of wierd plays
After that, I withdrew all the funds from my account
Purged my Poker Tracker DB, uninstalled all the software
Requested self exclusion from the sites (to ensure I don't go back again)

This game on these sites (especially the Zoom or Fastfoward) is no longer playable

I guess you can say maybe this was a mis-click, but its just too consistant to believe
you will be back on playing under mother , father, lover .......
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10-12-2016 , 06:46 PM
is this a real life
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10-12-2016 , 08:05 PM
I mean, of course it could be a super user or something like that, but it also could be some random dude on tilt thinking "**** it, I call this dude with 6 high!".
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10-12-2016 , 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthwalker
After that, I withdrew all the funds from my account
How many cheeseburgers did you withdrew?
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10-12-2016 , 09:59 PM
As played, I'd snap call you with 6 high as well. Your line screams 5 high.
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10-12-2016 , 10:42 PM
^ also this. GTO line EV EV PLUS PLUS
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10-13-2016 , 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morphismus
I mean, of course it could be a super user or something like that, but it also could be some random dude on tilt thinking "**** it, I call this dude with 6 high!".
I doubt it's the latter, don't think even the stupidest of whales on the tiltiest of tilts can do something like this. Could have been a well timed (badly timed for OP) misclick, though.
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10-13-2016 , 12:50 PM
Or the story is complete BS.
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10-13-2016 , 02:15 PM
Probably misclick or misread hand.

Or story is made up.
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10-13-2016 , 02:33 PM
It's not your fault that you were up against the greatest hand reader in the history of the game OP. Just a tough break.
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