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09-20-2016 , 08:58 AM
- Please don't read, if you can't handle tilt, are just going to flame etc. -

So the case is I just switched from SNG's and Spins to MTT's, and lately I am down a lot. I have found the variance so sickening (not sure if this is real variance). I play with BRM of like 200 BI's, and am already down over half of my roll, which is really killing me inside. The last days/weeks I feel I've played so good and everything is so easy. But then the cards run out, and I lose a 80/20 flip everytime, yes EVERYTIME!!!

To summarize just my last 12 hours, which is just like the last days/weeks.

(When I use expensive I mean it's for tournaments where I have only like 100 BI's)

1. Deep in ''expensive'' hot tournament, 40 left, huge stack, get it in against another big stack and lose my QQ vs TT preflop.
2. Deep in another hot tournament, almost 50 left, once again big stack, lose A9o vs A9o preflop (what?) and next hand I bust the rest with AJo vs A4o preflop.
3. Deep in another slow, but ''expensive'' tournament. Average stack with 15 left, lose my A8o vs A5o preflop.
4. Deep in normal tournament. 90 left, top 10 biggest stack, lose AA vs A4 preflop. Cry (a little serious).
5. Another normal tournament, like 100 left, and once again about 10th in chips. GII with Q4o on a board of 2Q64 with 3 diamonds. Opponent is not committed in any way and calls with A10o, with the 10 of diamonds.
6. Lets play an ''expensive'' zoom tournament. This time I'm also deep and 50 left (out of 1000 I think). GII on a 268 board with AA vs J8 and bust on the runout (yes I had aces)
7. Using all my VPPs to play a tournament which is 100-200x over my normal buyin, lose JJ vs 99 preflop with 100 left.

The rest of the tournaments are pretty much the same, or actually I also lost a big flip with 90 left with my AKs vs 1010 preflop (the guy won the tournament for 10x my BR), but I can actually deal with that one. All the other tournaments are basically A9 < KJ preflop, and this goes for maybe last 50-100 tournaments. And now I'm at a point where I don't know what to do.

Actually, I'm not sure why I'm posting this. Hopefully someone here experienced something similar and found a way to deal with it. I've never bragged about poker before, but have lost (like lost because I wasn't playing good) when I played cash games and then moved on because it felt right. But in this case my feelings aren't the same. I feel like I'm beating the **** out of everything, but that's just not enough and what do I do now? Do I continue until my aces beat AK (will it ever happen) or do I just stop before I lose my whole bankroll?

Yeah, wall of text, but thank you for reading this. Only really posted this to see what somebody else did when they felt they were beating the games.
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09-20-2016 , 09:21 AM
(1) Is your computer plugged in?

if so

(2) Have you tried turning it off, then turning it back on again?

if so

(3) Have you tried not being a total nitcakes and maybe amassing a stack a bit earlier?
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09-20-2016 , 10:53 AM
Hand 1: fold river
Hand 2: fold river
Hand 3: fold river
Hand 4: fold river
Hand 5: time to eat some donuts on the river
Hand 6: uninstall pre
Hand 7: erase life
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09-20-2016 , 11:39 AM
Anybody ever experienced something similar? Did you break the variance?
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09-20-2016 , 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VsKr05
Did you break the variance?
Excellent.

Needs to become our next troll response to posters.
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09-21-2016 , 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VsKr05
- Please don't read, if you can't handle tilt, are just going to flame etc. -

So the case is I just switched from SNG's and Spins to MTT's, and lately I am down a lot. I have found the variance so sickening (not sure if this is real variance). I play with BRM of like 200 BI's, and am already down over half of my roll, which is really killing me inside. The last days/weeks I feel I've played so good and everything is so easy. But then the cards run out, and I lose a 80/20 flip everytime, yes EVERYTIME!!!

To summarize just my last 12 hours, which is just like the last days/weeks.

(When I use expensive I mean it's for tournaments where I have only like 100 BI's)

1. Deep in ''expensive'' hot tournament, 40 left, huge stack, get it in against another big stack and lose my QQ vs TT preflop.
2. Deep in another hot tournament, almost 50 left, once again big stack, lose A9o vs A9o preflop (what?) and next hand I bust the rest with AJo vs A4o preflop.
3. Deep in another slow, but ''expensive'' tournament. Average stack with 15 left, lose my A8o vs A5o preflop.
4. Deep in normal tournament. 90 left, top 10 biggest stack, lose AA vs A4 preflop. Cry (a little serious).
5. Another normal tournament, like 100 left, and once again about 10th in chips. GII with Q4o on a board of 2Q64 with 3 diamonds. Opponent is not committed in any way and calls with A10o, with the 10 of diamonds.
6. Lets play an ''expensive'' zoom tournament. This time I'm also deep and 50 left (out of 1000 I think). GII on a 268 board with AA vs J8 and bust on the runout (yes I had aces)
7. Using all my VPPs to play a tournament which is 100-200x over my normal buyin, lose JJ vs 99 preflop with 100 left.

The rest of the tournaments are pretty much the same, or actually I also lost a big flip with 90 left with my AKs vs 1010 preflop (the guy won the tournament for 10x my BR), but I can actually deal with that one. All the other tournaments are basically A9 < KJ preflop, and this goes for maybe last 50-100 tournaments. And now I'm at a point where I don't know what to do.

Actually, I'm not sure why I'm posting this. Hopefully someone here experienced something similar and found a way to deal with it. I've never bragged about poker before, but have lost (like lost because I wasn't playing good) when I played cash games and then moved on because it felt right. But in this case my feelings aren't the same. I feel like I'm beating the **** out of everything, but that's just not enough and what do I do now? Do I continue until my aces beat AK (will it ever happen) or do I just stop before I lose my whole bankroll?

Yeah, wall of text, but thank you for reading this. Only really posted this to see what somebody else did when they felt they were beating the games.

tl;dr



- NMHU.
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09-21-2016 , 09:33 PM
You aren't fedor


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09-22-2016 , 01:02 AM
IMHO, what you need to do here is stick around until these tourneys end, explain your situation to whoever shipped it, and ask for what you think is fair compensation. In most cases the winner will be happy to shell out ~3% of their score (just remember to be honest and not leave out any details).
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09-22-2016 , 06:44 AM
You seem to lose alot without seeing flops, impressive
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09-23-2016 , 09:47 AM
@op variance is a beast in large field mtts. if you catch a badrun and dont play like 100 a day, it can go on for years. seems the best thing for you now is to take a break. then after a few days start analyzing your game. watch some strategy vids, get your confidence back. then its just matter of try, try again.

only thing thats beats variance is volume (if your a winning player )

GL!
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09-26-2016 , 03:07 AM
Brilliance ITT.

-sticks to "like 200 bi's" BRM
-half of list is "expensive" "hot", to which OP states is "like 100 bi's"
-Hash 2 runs counter to Hash 1, making OP's story uncredible.
-wall of text in which rests standard MTT variance, that probably never happened.
-It becomes obv OP sucks at MTT's, and probably all forms of poker
-Thread does reveal new epic troll line "Did you break the variance?"
-Thread remains unsaved
-voted 1*
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09-26-2016 , 07:25 PM
I'm interested to hear more about how you feel like you beat the shot out of everything but are 100BI down. You seem bad.
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09-27-2016 , 12:50 AM
It's poker bro... Everyone runs bad 99 percent of the time in mtt's... Then all of sudden.. Maybe its on a Tuesday 100 500 1000 2000 3000 mtt's later you bink a score

Volume is the only way to achieve success... Poker and Pain go hand in hand...

So much pain but it's all about the buzz when you're deep... Unless you're trying to play MTT's for a living then lol good luck with that... Those grinders can keep that life... Kill me now

If not then just enjoy the buzz man of running deep... Cause that's what the nuts really is... If you're running deep consistently eventually you will get a score..

Granted you're a winning player

Last edited by luckynuts444; 09-27-2016 at 01:09 AM.
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09-27-2016 , 02:13 AM
i agree with Leia. Take some time off first, and then instead of playing large MTT fields play smaller field MTT's or go back to sngs and spins until you rebuilt your roll back, then hop back in again. And what luckynuts said. There have been plenty of times when I have been deep only to lose with AA or KK to Ax or a flip or 60/40 or 40/60 or 80/20. It just happens. Also, you said "expensive" tournaments where you only have 100BI's. Try playing with more of a roll, say 250-500 BI's, then it will "kill you inside" a bit less. Obv still tilting, but won't be as painful. Best of luck.
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09-27-2016 , 04:08 AM
Getting ITM in an MTT is way different than in STT or Spins. In an MTT you're usually going to need to survive multiple flips to get to the serious cash. Even if you get it in as a 2-1 favorite every time (hint: you won't), you're only 20% to win 4 of those in a row. Sometimes you'll cover the V and survive, other times you will bust out. Virtually every major cash ever requires plenty of suck out, including the ones in your future if you continue with MTTs.

I have no idea if you can beat the games you're playing, but if you can, then I agree with the advice above that playing smaller fields reduces variance and might be better for you emotionally.

BTW I speak from experience . Tonight I shipped a small MTT (105 runners) after staying alive with J8o > KK, then my AT chopped with AK when the board was a flush. I BROKE THE VARIANCE.
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09-27-2016 , 04:18 AM
Long posts like this would be an insta infraction if I was mod
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09-27-2016 , 04:45 AM
Gotta break that variance op
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09-27-2016 , 04:55 AM
How come you don't play good OP?
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09-29-2016 , 12:59 PM
Hand No.5
Please explain to me how you lost?
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