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10-17-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrAmazing
I thought I would post another........

Hopefully this will make everyone feel better about themselves.
This is 100% true story.

5 years ago I stated playing home games with a group of approx 6 friends.
We were all donks but enjoyed our $10 buy-in games.

I deposited $20 on "pokerroom"
1 week before xmas I ran my $20 to $3600 in a few hours.
I cashed out full amount and bought a nice couch.

After that I started depositing $20 - $50 at a time to various sites.
Zero bankroll mngt and deposited approx 50 + diff times, zero cashouts.
I worked full time, so I just used my money to play, no real savings.
Over a 1 year period I stopped talking to ALL my friends, stopped seeing a nice girl and really had zero money except my $1000 check every 2 weeks.

I played a "freeroll" tourney I qualified in and won $45k.

Over a period of 2 years I blew the $45k on eating out, poker deposits, and lost 10k in stock market. I took 6k to vegas and played 1.5k wsop tourney.
I got sucked out on in the tourney, got tilted and took 4k to caesers and put on roulette black...red hit. I only had 10 bucks to my name in vegas for 3 more days....then flew home.

I would go play 2/5nl at local poker room....take a bad beat, then take all my money to blackjack and lose....happened 20+ times.

Various times I would rush my $300 stack to 2k plus and then go to blackjack table to blow it....then go to bank machine and take out all my money for blackjack.....i would lose....then I would go home, get a payday advance...go to blackjack....i would lose....i would go home and count my change....i would live on $20-$60 in change til my next paydate....
rinse/repeat.

Then I stated depositing via "echeck" would lose and bounce my echeck.
I did this on 4 different sites and obv got banned.
I owed apporx $1500.00 and never paid, went on my credit report.

After blowing thur my 10k savings with pokerdeposits I only really had a few hundred bucks with no savings and zero credit. Only my 1k every 2 weeks from work.

My mother got sick, so I moved to my parents upper level apartment they could not rent out and now help out with $$$ by paying them rent for there mortage

So...as of today......

I am 33yrs old, I have exactly $200 cash to my name, I owe a payday loan place $500.00, zero online money, I live with my parents, I have ZERO friends, I put on 100lbs in 2 years and am up to 300lbs, I eat like crazy, I'm starting to get chest pains daily so I think I have another major problem.

Over the last few weeks, I will sometimes take a 10min break from work and go to the bathroom to cry about my life and my situation.

But I get paid next week so I can make another deposit online...ship it!
Bumping another piece of gold
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10-17-2016 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyole18
lol this is my first post, since everyone is sharing i think ill share too. i honestly belive i am the biggest low stakes degen, (maybe youngest too)

anyways i started at 16 yo, playing 1$ pokerstars with friands, the whole lets be at same table and talk on phone thing..... was fun
17 comes around, i found out i can deposit with western union on fake accounts, i have 500$ in my bank account. i of cource sayto my self (dude your awesome go win millions) of cource i didnt even think about how to cashout lol...., so i deposit 500$, and i go play 0.05/0.10 for about 10 minuts, after i win about 10$ i think i am baller and go up to 0.5/1 first hand i still remember, my j10 off suit, i flop 3 jacks , guy catches river... 100$ shipped away from me. i go insta tilt (i had no idea of tilt before) and open up 4 more 0.5/1 tables with my full br on them (100 each), after couple hours, all 4 tables go to 0.

i get pissed off..............., smash my mouse, it breaks. i then realize that was my only mouse, i have no cash in account, my parents are poor, next paycheck is in 2 weeks. ****

alright lets fast forward about 6 month from then, i finish up hs, no clue how i passed all cources as i was skipping half of them playing 2$ poker with friands outside... anyways i got the whole summer to myself
and i dedicate myself to becoming pro poker player..... so there was a stars promotion like 10 entries to wsop though sattelites, i started making multiple account, on account 43 i get to final table of last sattelite, it gets to heads up, first gets wsop seat second gets 4.5k, i of cource want 4.5k since i am underage. now the other player sits out... i guess he was underage too, and i sit out as well, there are like dozens of railbirds waching this and they go berserk. w sit like that for half hour, mod comes along, says dudes better start playing or else. so i start playing and go all in with 74, he calls with 85, his hand stands and i see a nice 4.5k in account. 5 min later i am banned and ps says cause of multiaccounting i do not win anything, and also cause i am underage i am banned forever.

a few month go by, i go to college. life is good, i am finally 18... i make legit account on stars, and get my first credit card. OH if i knew, anyways
5k gone in about 5 days. i then of cource went into degen tilt mode thinking i am in such deep **** i got nothing to lose now, so i go and lose 10k of my osap which i had to give to college in 2 weeks. my parents find out and i take out 15k loan from bank, maying for college. i start partiing in college and fail out in first term. i go back home and start working in fast food restaurant, every paycheck i got for next 7 month i used to deposit online, i had 500 every 2 weeks
470-480 went to pokerz. anyways summer comes again and my dad loses his job, and they think i have about 5k saved up from my work...
and the sad part is they actually relied on that money, if i didnt give them it we were gonna lose home cause no way to pay mortgage. now you probably wont belive me but on the las paycheck before i had to give parents money i won a turney for 7k, (100$ turney on stars that starts at 1 am) it was so awesome. i quickly cashout and give rents 7k instead of 5
i tell them about poker, also i quit my job cause i though i turned pro poker player...
and theyr so happy i won 2k!!!! (i told them i won 2k so they wont find out ivv been donking off 5k for past 7 month, my parents are pretty oblivious of **** i do*
anyways, with 2k i start playing for first time in casinos now, i am 19 now and in canada... and i start playing 5/10 limit at nearby casino. and i was killing it, one night i ran up 200-1.2k i was so happy. wound up with 4k bankroll. gave it all to parents again and focused on getting a life.


my focus was lost about 4 month in, and i used my parents credit card for 4k online losing it all overnight, all on bj (now i became poker/bj degen). parents find out and my my nearly gets heart attack. shortly after my dad find a really good job and i dont feel bad no more. i find a very good job myself and start looking at college again. i also close my cridit cards.

now i am 19 years old soon to be 20 and i found out about insta debit, about 2 weeks ago i donked off 2k from my account (i had 2.1k in account) and today i decided to go and deposit on ub for first time. i had 40 in my checking account, i deposited 10$ 4 times
blowing half on bj and othr half on bj.
oh and i got into good college and am now thinking of quiting being a degen and start being a man , but who knows

so to sum my
brag won 4.5k
brag won 7k
brag dad got good job
brag got into good college
brag i am not fat
beat wasted probably around 20k
beat, almost killed my mom
beat made me depressed as ****
beat failed out of college
beat lies lies and lies
beat i think i am good at poker
beat i have no money
beat i have no gf
beat i lost most of my friands due to poker
beat i lost respect from my parents
beat i stole from my parents
beat i still cant drive
beat i cried at night couple weeks ago
beat i am hopeless and youll be seeing me on tables probably soon enough
This guy still around in 5 years
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10-17-2016 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerdanger
Havent posted here in this thread for basically a year...
This has been by a long wierd measure the most ****in bonkers year of my life.
Accidentally (seriously,lol) fallin back into drug scene,
Mostly accidentally (i ****ing swear to god) pimping?
Arrest and extradition on almost a dozen fraud charges, theft of movable property above xxxx(hijacked uhaul truck for other scheme)
Hustling
So weird to come back and see old posts, seems so long ago.
Read like 140 pages of rubbish and then the last ten or so were filled w gold nuggets.

Gotta salute king niche again dude, ive done plenty of my own dirt, but that story about burning his hand on the stove to punish himself DESTROYS ME every time.

My gf is coming home in 15 min, this bein her ipad i shall lay low, however, im going to tell some stories from this year thatll disgust you pigs.

Degen and not sorry.
Welcome back sir... Can't wait to hear more of your stories!

No book though?
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10-20-2016 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rangerdanger
Havent posted here in this thread for basically a year...
This has been by a long wierd measure the most ****in bonkers year of my life.
Accidentally (seriously,lol) fallin back into drug scene,
Mostly accidentally (i ****ing swear to god) pimping?
Arrest and extradition on almost a dozen fraud charges, theft of movable property above xxxx(hijacked uhaul truck for other scheme)
Hustling
So weird to come back and see old posts, seems so long ago.
Read like 140 pages of rubbish and then the last ten or so were filled w gold nuggets.

Gotta salute king niche again dude, ive done plenty of my own dirt, but that story about burning his hand on the stove to punish himself DESTROYS ME every time.

My gf is coming home in 15 min, this bein her ipad i shall lay low, however, im going to tell some stories from this year thatll disgust you pigs.

Degen and not sorry.
Welcome back
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10-20-2016 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyEndings
This thread makes me feel good about by problems. It's like GA without the guilt.

So my story. I'm 18 at the time. This is before online poker really took off. I'm going to school and playing the local 3-6 kill game about 6 hours a night. The only times I've left with any cash was when the game dispersed before I could lose it. My only bankroll management was to only withdrawl 40 dollars at a time from the ATM, and leave when I lost that. But rarely the case. Not uncommon for me to back to the ATM 5-6 times a night. This is a lot of money to be losing since I had no job.

I have $60 To my name, and need about 600 to not get evicted. Now with my bank, I could overdraft from an ATM as long as my balance was positive, but once it got one dollar under, I couldn't use the ATM till I brought it back up. Since this was my only chance to use the ATM, I decided to overdraft my account, and took out 300 dollars.

I sit down and go on the run needed. Hit a monte carlo, and within 2 hours I'm sitting pretty with just under 1100. That's enough to clear my account and pay the bills! I got up and left.

First thing in the morning I run to the bank to deposit the 1100. I'm smiling ear to ear, knowing How lucky I was. Deposit. Receipt. Balance. WTF! WTF! WTF! Negative $154! WTF! Have breakdown in the bank. Start accusing the teller of missing a digit. WTF!

Well it turns out, that at midnight, about 3 hours after I left the casino, a months worth of degeneracy batched. 24 individual "foreign ATM fees" of 1.50 processed. Each one carrying a 36 dollar overdraft fee.

That was the first time I quit poker.
Flashback Thursday this is a great one(how da faq was it possible to run up 1k at 3-6 limit) going from elated to devastated within seconds.
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10-21-2016 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
ouch, this has happened to me a dozen times, it always starts with "Well you were going a little too fast in that zone" or "I noticed your tailight is out and thought you should know" and ends with "Now I'm going to ignore the certain odor I smell from the car and give you a warning not to be a dip**** going forward, have a nice day"

I guess being white does come in handy from time to time
if Harambe had been white he would have got off with just a warning.
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10-22-2016 , 07:53 PM
Heading to card room now for first time in a month or so, where the following will happen for ~ the 50th time in a row: my seat has the winning hand zero times for hours (even had I played them all to the river) losing several buy-ins, then win one medium hand to get back to approximately one buy-in stuck, not even or winners (assuring that I am playing stuck virtually 100% of time for 9 months), then another several hours of zero winners ... making the whole thing auto "you will lose your session bank roll TWICE, not once, and it will be painfully slow happening ... including every single card and situation going south and negative at every turn. Started about 9 months ago ... never experienced run like this in 1/3 century of steady winning play, win rate about 67% of sessions now zero. Yes the game got a lot tougher. Yes this is voodoo.
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10-22-2016 , 08:01 PM
stick with it, when it changes you will run like a super nova...my stop loss is two buy ins and I too am running like ****e.

rangerdanger for president

Last edited by jcorb; 10-22-2016 at 08:02 PM. Reason: cl
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10-23-2016 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
stick with it, when it changes you will run like a super nova...my stop loss is two buy ins and I too am running like ****e.

rangerdanger for president

Voodoo runs deep. It did do the exact same thing again for 51st time. Every card and situation just twists and turns toward totally stymieing my hand. Miss every single flop for 7 hours but two ... flopped the nuts both of those times, and in one of the mini-themes of this run, I"m in heads-up and they have the same hand. "Okay, you can have your chips back for the nuts," in other words. Forget about winning. One premium hand, QQ, get called cold by solid player and maniac, flop comes exactly what I envisioned, A-K-rag rainbow, and they both take off one with A-Q, one with A-10.

Guy sits down next to me in seat I vacated. His first two hands he flops top two pair to Q-J once and 9-7 once, both times I have flush and straight draw, and both times he fills up on turn making me dead. He didn't even know how to bet and fouled continuously when trying to raise. But he knew how to catch perfect against me.

Bye-bye hand was shorthanded game, I call raise with K-7 of clubs. Flop 6-8-9, two clubs. I make the mistake of checking to the guy, very aggressive, but he figures to have nothing here and the flop is too coordinated for him to continuate (new word, neologism). He checks. Turn is King. I fire into him he instacalls. At this point I am about 97% sure he has a King with bigger kicker. I have a strong read which does tend to mess with me at times in uber-bad runs. The river is a king. Yes, he has K-J and the whole hand has just been a twist and turn saga to "You lose your chips in a maddening way so sit there another couple hundred hands and then you get another one beat, in the interim two deuces beats all your hands, and nothing works, every situation twists and turns into a stymie F job for your seat. Feel free to try another one. Not gonna work."

I had such a UConn Women's Hoops type winning %s for so long in last five years, it must just be correction for that super hot run which obviously was way, way, way over my expectation.

I know this: the addiction to the highs of winning is now understood to be superfluous to consciousness which is something I adamantly did not realize before. I was dependent on it in a way which profoundly colored my consciousness. Now I don't have it and don't need it.
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10-23-2016 , 08:35 AM
Wtf... we need to make this thread less about whiny bitching and great again
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10-23-2016 , 01:29 PM
OK, go
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10-24-2016 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Crank
Ive been lurking on 2+2 for about a year, I figured my first post might as well by my tale of degenracy, hell maybe I can get it out of my system... Anyway Very TL;DR

My Timeline of Degeneracy

Dec 2006: Started playing Poker, just on PKR and for fun.

June 2007: I had been playing on and off for a while with moderate success, figured I was a pretty good player and having Harrington on Holdem probably puts me ahead of most of the fish right (I havnt finished that book to this day)

Through reading about peoples success online I figured poker could be something Id like to do full time. I had a stable job but had planned to leave it to travel in 2009. I figured if I could learn how to beat the game before I left id be set. One drunken night I decided to smash my shoulder to get a week paid leave off work. Friends loaded me up on Tequila, I smashed it into a wall, it dislocated nicely. One week of sick pay + grind is a fair trade in exchange for two hours of immense pain and 8 weeks of rehab right.. Sounded good at the time.

Week Results
I made $400 or so, in a donkament and $120 at 25NL. Holla.
It was the third time I had dislocated it since my Rugby days so I opted to have surgery the following year so I could get a month of grind.

May 2008: Planned surgery for May 2008, Organised Accident compensation from the government for 6 weeks pay at 80% my wage. Convinced my boss that shoulder surgery was very painful and I wasnt able to work for 6 weeks (desk job, couldve been back in 2 days) and even convinced him that he should pay the remaining 20% of my wage.

Results from 6 weeks:
Boss pays me 3 weeks full pay and 3 weeks 20%.
Receive 8 weeks compo
breakeven for the 6 weeks (Super Weak Fish at the time)
Learn nothing about the game
Got drunk every third night
Got a DUI

Feb 2009: I travel overseas with my girlfriend, find a good place with a decent internet connection and start grinding about 2 weeks in. By this time I am a much better player, studied some DC vids, had one coaching session. but still full of leaks. I start back with grinding 25nl but get sick of making money so slowly so I take a shot at 100NL with a $600 roll, make $1100 in two days, think im a god and slowly dwindle it down to nothing over a period of three weeks

March 2009: I am up about $1200 overall since travelling, I cashed out $700 to pay a credit card bill but Ive been playing well and running well, so I decide to take a shot at every major donkament I can.

Spoiler:
Bust every single one as well as my entire roll.


April 2009: Decided I enjoy playing HU Cash games, Studied Prinnyraiding and Dogisheadsup vids and decided Ill give it a shot. Put $200 onto PKR as I figure the HU players are weak. Have a 1K day playing 50 and 100NL.

The following day, get sucked into a PKR casino game Bust full $1200 playing casino holdem (Rigged) Deposit another $1000 and lose that aswell. Looking back I hit 2 4-of-a-kinds for $700 each one. Still one hour later BR = Zero....

Thats when I contacted PKR staff to vent my frustrations, Monetary and Sexual...

Louis: Welcome to PKR! How can I help you?

Bob: hi I want to increase my deposit limits to $10,000 but i am currently travelling abroad and dont have access to the required paperwork

Bob: I have been with PKR for 2 years

Louis: I am afraid this is the only way we can increase your deposits so unless you can ask someone from home to send it, you may have to wait until you return

Bob: ok.

Bob: I lost $2000 in casino holdem

Bob: can i have it back

Louis: Ah I am sorry, if it is lost on real money you wont

Bob: so you wont take my money and you wont give me money. What the xxxx are you good for then?

Bob: just say nothing...

Louis: If you placed bets on casino hold em and lost, we would not be able to give it back for obvious reasons, I am sorry I could not help you further

Bob: can you tell me if casino holdem is rigged?

Bob: I wont tell anybody

Bob: I will keep it to myself

Bob: honest

Louis: For all casino games, odds are in the houses favour, this is true of most casino games but it is certainly not rigged

Bob: do you get paid for helping people or do you get paid just to sit and talk, if the second is the case would you like to have cyber sex?

Louis: I am paid to help people but if you lost a bet in the bookies and asked for it back once it lost, I think you would get the same response

Louis: and I am ok for cyber thank you

Bob: sweet..

Bob: ok ill start

Bob: im lying naked on my bed just thinking about the $2000 I just lost

Bob: your turn

Louis: I am at work fully clothed, sorry not so good

Louis: Is there anything else I can help you with?

Bob: perhaps you could fondle my junk

Louis: Bye for now Bob, I hope your luck changes soon on the casino hold em front

Bob: I feel so unsatisfied

Bob: ..............


By now my travel funds have dwindled to nothing, I dont have enough for a ticket home let alone enough to take another shot just ONE TIME!!.

I figure the only way to get some money is if my bags are "stolen" and I can claim on my Travel Insurance.

May 2009: After a month of paperwork, emails and policework. My Insurance arrives into my account. As a celebration I deposit $600 into Stars to grind 25nl.
This lasts all of one hour and I put it into a 600NL HU match to double it, I play meakly for 23 hands.

Untill this hand occurs...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer
($654)
Hero ($544)

Dealt to Hero JK

Hero raises to $18, Villan raises to $60, Hero calls $42,

FLOP ($120) 6KQ

Villan bets $95, Hero calls $95,

TURN ($310) 6KQ9

check, Hero bets $260, Villan raises to $499 (AI), Hero calls $129 (AI),

RIVER ($1,088) 6KQ93



Spoiler:
Villan shows 7T
(Flop 9.6%, Turn 31.8%)

Hero shows JK
(Flop 90.4%, Turn 68.2%)

Villan wins $1,087


Through tilt and madness Eventually my BR ends up...

Spoiler:
At Zero Once Again


As of today: After a month of partying and travelling around I am now at the point where I dont have enough money for both my girlfriend and myself to get home again. The whole idea to come to this country was to become a good player (as the cost of living is small) and so far ive gone in the opposite direction. Now in order to get my poker "Career" back on track, im sending her home (she understands and trusts me), locking myself in my hotel and starting anew. Ill be grinding my ass off being fully rolled for 10NL this time. Learning from my mistakes isnt an option, its a must. If I dont make it, I dont know what im gonna do.

Well writing all this is kinda like therapy, I didnt realise how much of a degen I was untill it was all typed out in front of me. I know now Lack of Paitence and persistence is my biggestleak. But anyway I know what I must do, and I know this site is gonna help, ill just keep grind on my mind and keep my tilt in check.

Anyway ill think be around alot more from now on...
A good degen story makes you angry like this one
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10-24-2016 , 09:11 PM
The last couple of days have been completely ****ed to say the least. After losing my multi bet (which I deserved to win) I think I lost it a bit mentally. I was so angry, I didn't even get a chance to enter the Sunday millions because I lost my remaining balance flipping against fish in Omaha. I was out the front of my house just screaming at the top of my lungs. I was hoping someone would come outside so I could flip my **** on them, I really wanted to get into a confrontation of some sort. My neighbor came outside and basically told me to shut the **** up because his kids were trying to sleep. I told him to get ****ed and if he had an issue to come and fight me like a man. The pussy went inside. About 20 minutes later I saw the police coming so I ran into my backyard and hid inside (I live in a Granny flat). Literally a couple of minutes later I get a knock on the door, oh **** it's the pigs! I acted like I had no idea what they were talking about, they didn't buy it. One of my dickhead neighbors hat ratted me out (I know exactly who it was). I'm going to wait till the situation dies down and then egg the **** out of his house while he's at work. I've got to go to court next month for public disturbance, utter bull****.

With literally $30 or so to my name I knew I had to get creative or I'd truly be ****ed, I'd paid rent a few days before that so I knew I was all gee for the moment. Time to calm down and use my extremely above average intellect to solve my current 'issue'. I decided it would be a good idea to use $20 of my remaining money and purchase a tab of lsd. I figured if I had that I'd come up with some good idea to get me out of my mess. I dropped the tab the following morning, around midday it hit me! I got dressed, hopped in my car and drove down to the local Cash Convertors, I used my smooth talking ways and managed to convince the employee there to give me a $1,700 loan at 20% monthly interest despite not having worked in months. Not at all bad when you think about it, the rates are a bit high but considering my poker skills it'd be foolish not snap take the loan. I would of taken out a larger loan but $1,700 was the maximum that they would allow me.

Still tripping, albeit not to intensely, only very slight visuals at this time I decided to play a bit of live poker. I felt as if it would be almost impossible to lose while tripping, I was fully in the zone, there was going to be no stopping me. Sat down at a $3/$6 holdem for $600, I ran that up to $2,000 easily. I can't explain this but I could tell when I was going to hit a hand. I had QsJs, I ended up getting it all in vs two players on a 984 flop (one spade) against pocket Qs and pocket 4s. I figured I was going to hit a Q, J or a 10 and win a big pot. Little did I know that a Q or a J wouldn't win me the pot, didn't matter though, I hit runner spades for a flush. Sometimes in poker you just have that feeling, if your intuition is strong as mine you've just got to sigh and go with it. I was so happy I jumped up, fist-bumped the air and yelled 'come on baby'.

This wog who had just lost with pocket 4s was furious to say the least, he wanted to fight me and told me he was going to knock my teeth out if I didn't apologise. I paused for about 10 seconds and said 'I don't how it works in Wog-land Ohio but here in Australia we control our animal instincts…' There was a lot of Aussies at the table so I was anticipating a round of applause or at least a cheer, boy was I wrong. I got berated for the next 20 minutes by pretty much the whole table. The experience started to become very unpleasant, I think tripping whilst this happened really contributed to making it worse. I decided enough was enough, flipped off Mr. 4s and sat down at the first roulette table I could find. I had just over $3,000 at the time, I proceeded to get unlucky, and dropped about $700. Time for a quick break!

I went outside to have a ciggie break, just as I was about to walk back into the casino I felt a fist smash right into the back of my head. Did you really just king hit me wog boy?... Big mistake. I turned around and started swinging on the ****, I landed a few good shots, he stumbled back and fell on the ground. I proceeded to ground and pound his bitch ass, I chucked a couple of elbows in for good measure before some spectators broke the fight up. I was allowed back into the casino because I wasn't the instigator and was simply defending myself, security luckily didn't see the ground and pound or I probably wouldn't of been allowed back in. I wasn't in any mood for human interaction at this point, I sat myself down at the most isolated electronic roulette table I could find. Luck was not on my side, I kept on feeding money into the machine until I only had $300ish left. I almost had a major panic attack while tripping, luckily karma was on my side. I put $100 on 14 (I am a massive Thierry Henry fan) and $20 on some of the corners around it, olaaaaaaaaaaaay! I can't describe the feeling when 14 came up but it was dope, I was ecstatic to say the least. I decided enough was enough for now, walked down to the cage and cashed out my chips for a little under $6,000. I'm now able to pay back my cash convertors loan and will be getting back to my regular crushing ways tomorrow. Time to relax and lay low for a couple of days but after that I'm going to be going hard at the tables again!
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10-24-2016 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfHoldem
The last couple of days have been completely ****ed to say the least. After losing my multi bet (which I deserved to win) I think I lost it a bit mentally. I was so angry, I didn't even get a chance to enter the Sunday millions because I lost my remaining balance flipping against fish in Omaha. I was out the front of my house just screaming at the top of my lungs. I was hoping someone would come outside so I could flip my **** on them, I really wanted to get into a confrontation of some sort. My neighbor came outside and basically told me to shut the **** up because his kids were trying to sleep. I told him to get ****ed and if he had an issue to come and fight me like a man. The pussy went inside. About 20 minutes later I saw the police coming so I ran into my backyard and hid inside (I live in a Granny flat). Literally a couple of minutes later I get a knock on the door, oh **** it's the pigs! I acted like I had no idea what they were talking about, they didn't buy it. One of my dickhead neighbors hat ratted me out (I know exactly who it was). I'm going to wait till the situation dies down and then egg the **** out of his house while he's at work. I've got to go to court next month for public disturbance, utter bull****.

With literally $30 or so to my name I knew I had to get creative or I'd truly be ****ed, I'd paid rent a few days before that so I knew I was all gee for the moment. Time to calm down and use my extremely above average intellect to solve my current 'issue'. I decided it would be a good idea to use $20 of my remaining money and purchase a tab of lsd. I figured if I had that I'd come up with some good idea to get me out of my mess. I dropped the tab the following morning, around midday it hit me! I got dressed, hopped in my car and drove down to the local Cash Convertors, I used my smooth talking ways and managed to convince the employee there to give me a $1,700 loan at 20% monthly interest despite not having worked in months. Not at all bad when you think about it, the rates are a bit high but considering my poker skills it'd be foolish not snap take the loan. I would of taken out a larger loan but $1,700 was the maximum that they would allow me.

Still tripping, albeit not to intensely, only very slight visuals at this time I decided to play a bit of live poker. I felt as if it would be almost impossible to lose while tripping, I was fully in the zone, there was going to be no stopping me. Sat down at a $3/$6 holdem for $600, I ran that up to $2,000 easily. I can't explain this but I could tell when I was going to hit a hand. I had QsJs, I ended up getting it all in vs two players on a 984 flop (one spade) against pocket Qs and pocket 4s. I figured I was going to hit a Q, J or a 10 and win a big pot. Little did I know that a Q or a J wouldn't win me the pot, didn't matter though, I hit runner spades for a flush. Sometimes in poker you just have that feeling, if your intuition is strong as mine you've just got to sigh and go with it. I was so happy I jumped up, fist-bumped the air and yelled 'come on baby'.

This wog who had just lost with pocket 4s was furious to say the least, he wanted to fight me and told me he was going to knock my teeth out if I didn't apologise. I paused for about 10 seconds and said 'I don't how it works in Wog-land Ohio but here in Australia we control our animal instincts…' There was a lot of Aussies at the table so I was anticipating a round of applause or at least a cheer, boy was I wrong. I got berated for the next 20 minutes by pretty much the whole table. The experience started to become very unpleasant, I think tripping whilst this happened really contributed to making it worse. I decided enough was enough, flipped off Mr. 4s and sat down at the first roulette table I could find. I had just over $3,000 at the time, I proceeded to get unlucky, and dropped about $700. Time for a quick break!

I went outside to have a ciggie break, just as I was about to walk back into the casino I felt a fist smash right into the back of my head. Did you really just king hit me wog boy?... Big mistake. I turned around and started swinging on the ****, I landed a few good shots, he stumbled back and fell on the ground. I proceeded to ground and pound his bitch ass, I chucked a couple of elbows in for good measure before some spectators broke the fight up. I was allowed back into the casino because I wasn't the instigator and was simply defending myself, security luckily didn't see the ground and pound or I probably wouldn't of been allowed back in. I wasn't in any mood for human interaction at this point, I sat myself down at the most isolated electronic roulette table I could find. Luck was not on my side, I kept on feeding money into the machine until I only had $300ish left. I almost had a major panic attack while tripping, luckily karma was on my side. I put $100 on 14 (I am a massive Thierry Henry fan) and $20 on some of the corners around it, olaaaaaaaaaaaay! I can't describe the feeling when 14 came up but it was dope, I was ecstatic to say the least. I decided enough was enough for now, walked down to the cage and cashed out my chips for a little under $6,000. I'm now able to pay back my cash convertors loan and will be getting back to my regular crushing ways tomorrow. Time to relax and lay low for a couple of days but after that I'm going to be going hard at the tables again!
Solid post. So now what is your bankroll after paying back loan. Are you going to use current bankroll to grind 1/2?
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10-24-2016 , 10:39 PM
egg his house? What happened to fighting him like a man?
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10-25-2016 , 01:43 PM
Great post KingOfHoldem.

Was this recent, "$30 in my pocket" the only time you've been there. Tell us another one.
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10-25-2016 , 02:42 PM
$1700 loan from cash converters with no job and no collateral?

I think you were tripping harder than you thought bc this doesn't happen on planet earth.
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10-27-2016 , 01:03 AM
that can happen if your on centerlink lol but i think max is 1200 or some****.
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10-27-2016 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pilsvogel
Ok so here's my story. tl;dr.

(cliffs:
- building and loosing free bankrolls
- depoting state-loans and loosing that on poker and bj.
- Make money with poker website, loose al that.
- Go on uni-exchange, blow all my money, lie to parents, get bailed out,
- parents take over finances and send me to psychologist, relatively stable now at 25k debt

First note, that the thing with BJ is it makes you feel good when after a loosing session of poker, with two BJ clicks you can win it all back again. Which is a trap, obv.

Back in 2005 the whole pokercraze started getting going in holland. Party was giving out free bankrolls and ik signed up multiple accounts just to play with that. I took a few of those 50 free rolls over 1 k, played limit 50/100, lost it all, did it again, etc. I was hooked at the possible of making that much money with so little effort. I decided I could be a consitent winning player and started depositing my monthly student stateloan into the online pokers. Dropped +500$ a month, that for a few years. I'd play serious poker and win a few buy-ins, get subsequently badbeated in the face, after which I try and win it back with 500 a hand BJ, and fail imo. So I have 10 k of losses but figure ok im at uni Ill make it back.

Then I started a poker website that gave out free cash to new players, getting paid by the rooms for delivering depositing players. Was good stuff really, I felt rich and entrepreneur. I made 12k that way, which covered all the state-debt I had run up untill that point and leave some. Unfortunately, the rooms changed rules for referring players, so I took the website went down. The ****ty thing was that as an roomaffiliate I got paid through my pokeraccount on partypoker. Than the obvious degen thing happened. I got major-league drunk and thought I'd make a few extra k's on blackjack before I'd cash out my websitewinnings and pay of debt.. Obviously, in a terrible sesssion I dropped 1 14k on blackjack dropping 500$ a hand. I was sitting behind my computer, wasted, and in a few minutes it was all gone.
I felt like **** and promised myself never to play either poker or bj.
Next day, I talked myself into winning it all back and them some and withdrew 6k out of a studentbankloan (sick interest btw) to play with. It was gone in two weeks. FML.

Did not play poker for a while. I went on holiday, after which I went on a university exchange to a university in the UK. There I bought myself a pokerbook, and told myself I had all the time and patience to start learning poker and bankroll manangement to win back all I had ever lost. DIdnt work out. I blew my money each month so bad I wasnt able to go out or cook proper food, I was on diet of bread and water, watching highstakes tables at fulltilt and whacking off to highstakes.nu on my crap laptop, untill the next government paycheck came in. At one point I took that up to 8 k, after which I got on tilt and BJ'd it all away, again. I was busted so hard but I needed rent money so I called my parents and made up some lame excuse why I needed more money. They transferred that, which I gambled obv, after which I called my sister with a similar lame excuse. Pls give me money.He did that, I obviously donked it off playing way over my head trying to win back rent money and the money my parents gave me. I finally BJ'd the last few bucks and was out of options. I was shaking and smoking sigarettes continiously. No food, no money, and the rent to pay in - 2 days.


I decided to confess to my parents that I had spent my exchange semester blowing their money and stateloans on poker and BJ. I knew they have money and would bail me out (moral hazard imo) That phone-conversation was the most horrible moment in my life. My mother immediately flew over, I met up with her and was so ultimately embarressed with the fact I had not lived up to expectations and was just an idiot addict who blew money and lied to family. She talked to me and said she understood I was addicted and that they help me out. They took over my finances.

That was the best thing that happened to me. I owe my parents forever for
taking me out of the mess I was in, sending me to a psychologist and checking up on me. Im in charge of my own finances now but stayed clear of poker ever since. Thing is, its still something that attracts me on such a pervers level. I'll allways have a weakness towards gambling and poker, which is probably why I lurk these forums from time to time, to get a glimpse of the life that might have been.

I study financial economics (mildly funny considering previous bankroll management), and ill graduate my masters in june with about 30k euro's in government debt. Which is bad, but ill be able to pay interest and my life is not a trainwreck.

my 2 cents,Good luck to all the degens who want to get out
Bump worthy for those who wanna see degening in its purest form
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11-04-2016 , 04:11 PM
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I don’t usually post in online forums, but I’ve been a bit of a lurker on 2+2 and thought I’d join and post my degen story. Bear with me since I have a propensity to ramble after a few.

I’ve had the gambling bug since I was a young kid, started playing the fruit machines (“slots” for our friends from across the “pond”) when I was a teenager and got myself into a mountain of debt, somehow paid it off and moved to the US when I was 18.

Everything was OK for a couple of years, I played the online casinos now and then but nothing too crazy. Then I started going to the pool halls and having friendly games of 9-ball for $20 or so with the regulars. I was never much good at pool, but in those days I seriously overestimated my ability. Back then I had trouble running 2-3 balls, but kept raising the stakes nonetheless. Within about a month I was playing $100 - $500 sets at the match tables at the front of the club and started to attract a small audience (not to mention a queue of people all too willing to relieve me of some of my cash).

I was making good money at work at the time (~80k/year) but the stakes started getting stupid as I kept chasing my losses and within about 2 months I was playing sets to 9 for ~$1-$3k or and I was broke. I borrowed some money from friends and lost that. I went to Montreal with some buddies for the weekend and lost $4k playing blackjack. I needed some cash fast.

One rainy night I was driving round while off my face with a buddy and took a turn too quick, the back wheels gave out (4 bald tires, never bothered getting them replaced), and I buried two parked cars. Couldn’t hang around due to the little “breathalyzer” problem so we sped off, and at about 5am that morning we went out and parked the car next to a fire hydrant, poured 5 bottles of lighter fluid in it and threw in a match. Next day my buddies smuggled me back home and I went down to the local police station to report it stolen. I thought it was only worth about $5k but a month later I had a cheque for $9,985 from the insurance company. Pretty lucky since I believe they investigate all claims over $10,000 much more diligently than those under. Lost the $10k in about 3 days playing pool.

So anyway, broke and pretty desperate at this point, I found a scheme to siphon some money from my employer’s account into my own. White shoe law firm, they wouldn’t notice a measly $5k right? I came into work one night at 3am smashed off my face and simply printed a cheque out in my own name on their cheque printer for ~$4,900 ($5k+ requires two signatures, anything less goes with the printed signature) and without thinking too much deposited it at the ATM. And that’s how it began.

Over the next six months, $5k turned into $10k, $20k, $30k and so on. I was the new whale at the pool halls round town. People from out of state heard about me. I was playing anywhere from $1k - $10k a set, every night, staying up all night every night, turning up to work ****-ass drunk but early enough to print my cheques, locking my office and sleeping on the floor all day before going out at 5pm and doing it all over again. That was a crazy six months, I don’t remember much of it as I was permanently smashed off my tits, going home every couple of days to shower but otherwise sleeping at work all day and boozing and gambling pretty much 5pm – 5am. I didn’t care about anything, I would even park my car right outside my office building in the middle of downtown and throw the two or three daily $30 parking tickets in the glove compartment. I never did pay any of those tickets.

Then the inevitable happened. I’m sitting in my office idly browsing the web and my boss calls me: “do you mind coming down to conference room 4b for a second?” So I trundle down there, and there they are – my boss, the CFO, and 3 plain clothes detectives. They questioned me for a while, I admitted everything, they handcuffed me and led me down to the cruiser and drove me to the holding cells. I was 21 and my world was over.

Bail was set at $50k. I didn’t have a cent to my name, my family didn’t bail me out so I rotted in a county jail for 8 months waiting to plead out my case. First couple of months was probably the worst, coming down off all the booze, no smoking, no commissary, hungry every night. After that it got a bit easier, but being locked in a 9*12 cell with 2 other people and no books for 22 hours is no fun when you’re a). hyperactive and b). verging on suicidally depressive.

Only when the indictment papers came through did I find out the final tally - $257k over the course of just under 6 months. I pled out for 20 months to forgery, larceny and uttering and got paroled after I had served 10. Another 3 months in INS custody and I was deported back to the UK, where I have been since then.

I’m still degen-ing it up these days, mostly on poker (I don’t play casino games any more, and pool rarely), but at least I can afford it now as I’m making pretty good money (~£10-11k/month). Those of you who are regulars at some of the live poker joints around London have probably met me before, smashed off my tits and playing like a crazy fish on the 1/2 NL Hold’em tables.

I’ve had quite a few pretty degen episodes since I got out, but nothing compares to that 6 months. August 2009 was my 6 year anniversary of getting out and all I can say is that I look back at it now as if it were all a dream.

So that’s my gambling degen story (well, the main one). Writing this was cathartic for me, hope it was entertaining for the readers.
Had to bump another classic
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11-04-2016 , 11:03 PM
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Wow. That's legit better than 80% of the movies I've seen.
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11-04-2016 , 11:46 PM
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11-05-2016 , 12:25 AM
unreal^^
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11-05-2016 , 05:03 AM
Wow


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11-09-2016 , 08:48 PM
Full of shame and remorse today...
I ran up a nice roll this summer on the slots. I was up anywhere from 12k to 8k but never below that. I won it all at Foxwoods. I decided to take a shot at baccarat again as I had left it for the slots this summer, figuring odds are so much better, more social game, etc.
I first went to a racino with $500, thought if i lose it ill stop. I didnt. I dropped $3000 exactly over the course of 6 hours last Tuesday. Then I thought, I will just stop completely but first I'll just play at Foxwoods one more night and use my Gold status rewards for $75 free slot play. I drop another $500 that night and self excluded from the woods for life. Disgusted Im such a degen pig, I said Im done that its. Then i said why not just play poker be smart etc... I didnt, I went to Mohegan Sun today with $500. Lost that in first hour at Baccarat. Took another $500, lost that quick. Ignorant ass dealer has the nerve to discuss how bad Im losing to the pit boss right in front of me. Hes really losing fast, 8 beat by 9 etc. Punk mother****er i should have said something, but i didnt just kept losing. I lost another $1000 fast after that, but then i took break. THen go to slots. Lost $250. Back to baccarat and i start winning some up to $800. That lasts all day up and down but doing decent, then i go to play poker. Long list. I sit at 2/4 limit as only table open. Flop 2 pair, but freaking limit cant raise the donks off the hand and lost on river. I only played one hand and back to tables. I started betting $30 on 26 and surround its neighbors also each spin. Wouldnt you know it keeps hitting 29, 23, 25, but never 26. I last a hour and busto. I have donked off $6500 in one week, and basically lost my gambling roll. Its been a fun summer, I bought a Omega Watch, paid off 5k in student loans, but today i lost my source of fun I always protected by betting within my means. I am full of shame and regret, downing a pint on liquor but its not enough to relieve the sting.
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